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 Author Thread: Divorced vs. Never Married
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Divorced vs. Never Married
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:53:41 AM
It's all about thinking that popular or idiosyncratic ideas of "normal" matter. I've heard women discussing men say, "He's never been married. There must be something wrong with him."

Only to women who want a man to marry, I guess.

As far as "Single," goes, I'm with the crew who say it means never married. If there are check-boxes for "divorced," "separated," "widowed" and the like, the meaning should be obvious. The "virgin" analogy works for me.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 78 (view)
 
The 80/20 rules and why relationships suck today.
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:49:03 AM
I agree that beards are a turn-off, but then I'm a guy. I am at a loss to comprehend the surging popularity of "stupid-stubble" beards among men. Why do men think beards are great? I know one guy who sys his beard hides his chinlessness, and two who say it hides thier massive jowls, but beyond that...

80/20 is the sort of silly statistic that Donald Trump loves. Even Hillary Clinton fell afoul of "half of Trump's supporters," using a common phrase for "part of" that becomes a fantastatistic. (My portmanteau coinage for "fantasy statistic.")

It's like "Sturgeon's law": "ninety percent of everything is crap." Though I remembered it as "86% of everything is crap." The point is that generalizations are no made any more correct or precise by sticking BS numbers on them.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
military scam. Really?
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:40:36 AM
These target women much more often than men. Men seem more culturally alert to being looked at as ATMs.

But it's not like there are no red flags: POF says it right up front, and often: "If anyone asks you for money, it's a scam."

Warnings:

-don't loan money
-don't order things for people (foreign cheques can come back after months!)
-don't take a check and refund money on it
-use a reverse image search to find out who else claims to be that photo
-don't stick around when offered business opportunities or get-rich-quick scams
-don't go to any website you get pointed to to communicate, or download any software someone asks you to.
(especially web addresses ending in a code number, like thatsite.domain/WX34J!kk882 - that means they're getting a commission for sending you there!)

I hope others will add tot he warning pile.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Getting my stuff back from the ex
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:33:45 AM
If you say you're coming to pick up when-and-where and he says he can't make it, he needs to provide an alternative. Such as dropping it off with you.

He may also respond better to being contacted by you mother, asking for her property back.

Small claims court exists for a reason. Nobody should have to eat significant losses because someone has been a bully.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Perhaps I'm just unnattractive
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:22:44 AM
"Understanding women" is always a problem if you treat women as another species. Not having any sisters, I have always valued the friendship of women, and found many unforseen benefits.

For one thing, it helps one be comfortable with women, and recognizing things that can scare or upset them in ways men don't always realize.

For another, one can learn how the women one knows feel about responding to overtures they receive. And women can tell you when they think other women are liking you - or not. they may even identify women who they think are suitable for you, and even say nice thing about you. Keep in mind that all women are different, and not all women know what all other women think and feel.

Finally - lose the stubbly beard. It's gross.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Men, would you date a woman who is pregnant? Why or why not?
Posted: 9/12/2016 3:15:19 AM
Some people do want a father-figure in their lives, or help raising and caring for a child. Nothing wrong with that.

Human children really DO need support when growing. And there's no excuse for cutting off support - it's the children who need support, and it's not their fault.

For myself - at the age of 63 now - I don't want to live with, raise or have a child. As such, I would be reluctant to date a pregnant woman. I don't feel bad about that; women and children who want a male parent shouldn't end up with people who don't want to be parents. It's a recipe for misery for all.

And what of the kids with no supporters? We know that parentless, institutional upbringing is devastating, not to mention that parents who love and support their kids do all they can to give them an advantage over other kids - special tutors, educational materials, and the socially-destructive plague of private schools. That unfair desire to put one's first is a big part of why I don't want to be a parent - I don't think I could ever accept being unfair to the world in the interests of my own responsibilities to a child. B.F. Skinner and others have speculated on the possibilities of raising ALL children without special parents, and others have experimented with communal parenting models that don't tie one's life to the parents one can't choose.

I don't think we should be unhappy our governments and societies provide supports to children with no parents, or parents who can't provide a decent life for them. Marriage evolved in large part as a way to free people from supporting children who aren't their own, and in parts of the world where men don't traditionally support their offspring (like large parts of sub-Saharan Africa) population control is difficult to impossible.

ASERICO:

It's true that inequality worsens the resource distribution problem, but not the resource exhaustion problem. Whatever our population level and standard of living, and whatever we do to catch up with all the environmental problems from climate change to agricultural contamination, we can be certain that there is some level at which the human population is not sustainable. And that no program hoping to deal with the population we have will succeed before it is obsoleted by the growth of population.

There's little to be gained in fighting to redistribute wealth or reduce our standard of living in an attempt to reduce inequality and environmental degradation when population grows both exponentially (as it naturally does, given how human breeding chain reactions work) and without limit.

And, of course, if we DO manage to limit population, we can hope that technological and social progress will enable us to all live decent lives without trampling on others.

In an ironic twist, this planet would be better off with a lot fewer people and a lot more cars. Cars don't create more cars.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
OK, I'm starting to feel afraid
Posted: 9/12/2016 2:48:44 AM
A couple of notes:

1. For anyone wondering about "cleaning up after," and who enjoys really fine cinema about the great existential questions of life, I recommend Kore-Eda's AIR DOLL. You'll need to be able to read subtitles and watch at the same time, though, as its in Japanese. It stars the amazing Korean actor Doo-na Bae (assorted spellings appear) also seen in LINDA LINDA LINDA and HOST (the Korean one of that name).

At the start of the film, our heroine is living with her owner, a sad and unimaginative dude who bought her to avoid having to deal with real people - and not just for sex; he lives with her and shares meals as one would with a partner. Anyway, the above question is quickly addressed.

2. In San Francisco, the Golden Gate Bridge is the site of an unofficial "passenger-sharing" site. There's a corner on the north side where people line up to await rides from SF-bound commuters who don't want to pay the outrageous toll. Since HOVs get a break, there are lots of drivers who pick up passengers to drop off in town, and deliver others back on the way home.

No harm, no foul. :)

3. A big part of the history of the creation of marriage is that there are plenty of people looking for sex but not wanting to raise children. Thus, a contract was created to ensure they did, and a lot of mythology about what True Love should be.

Today, we don't need an endless supply of babies, as they are the principal cause of all environmental problems. Both men and women (with the aid of contraception, abortion and equal employment - not perfect yet, but at least accepted and available) can choose the role they want, and what they may want other people to play in theirs. It's really important that people make a deal that they and any partners are both happy with.

Social scientists are doing a lot of work on the alienation of males and females - most strikingly in Taiwan and Japan, but also elsewhere. In Taiwan, there is so little confidence in the future of the country at the hands of China that the traditional family bonds and multi-generational goals are being replaced with planning to get the heck outta here instead of building families.

In Japan, the pop culture trend is for men and women to not feel they need each other; the women only want cars, money and clothing, and employment to let them get what they want. The men, we are told, only want mechanical sex and video games, ideally without any need to work or clean up.

These generalizations obviously aren't universal truths, but they are widely enough discussed that one has to think seriously about what people who don't have to go beyond their own desires will do with their lives.

In China, the softening of the One Child policy surprised the Party bosses - there don't seem to be a lot of people in the cites who want more than one child; the focus is still on having one MALE child, but not in having any others. Or any females.

In the light of these trends, we do have to ask the Fembots and Magic Wands are saying about our world. Meanwhile, huge numbers of people exercise their self-indulgence by arrogating control of the world with their own self-serving versions of What's Right for the World. Hrumph.

ED BEAR

Remember all those, "Why is Beer/A Motorcycle/A Vibrator better than a Woman/Man" lists? We all need to think about what we want in our lives, and not accept packages others impose.
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Getting over breaking up
Posted: 9/12/2016 2:13:57 AM
FTOG? Seroiously, how many of us have actually FTOG in our lifetimes? I still have fingers left.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 118 (view)
 
Donald Trump is a Fraud Thread
Posted: 7/24/2016 6:35:39 AM
Dee, I think that mobster you refer to as being busted for tax evasion must be Al Capone. The Feds got his accountant to turn over his files.

As for fact-checking Trump's acceptance speech - much of what he said was simply cherry-picking and deliberately misleading. Like choosing homicide stats from only the largest 50 cities in the US - and in fact for a time period where there are not statistics yet, so he's going on a partial analysis that is a journalist's effort to predict what we don't know yet.

I was particularly disturbed by his assertion that he would fight to protect LGBTQ persons from foreign ideologies of hate. Leaving plenty of room for American ideologies of hate, of course.

The US does not have one of the highest tax rates in the world - though Trump makes his wealthy pals feel that way. Many a right-wing politico has pointed to high MARGINAL tax rates as high while AVERAGE tax rates are low... but even that isn't true here. And few wealthy individuals or businesses pay the full marginal rate, if any; they have the resources to use the help-the-rich provisions of conservative tax codes.

In a number of his claims, he picks his time scales carefully or mis-states them. Often what he attributed to the Obama era mostly occured, or started, with Bush. Other times, he excludes recent years when progress has been strongest - though in the case of the 50-biggest-cities homicide stats, he uses only a projection for the current year.

One doesn't have to lie to mislead. In fact, one doesn't even have to accuse someone of lying to get tossed out of the Canadian parliament for a day; "deliberately misleading" is close enough. (This last sentence is humor and social context, not any sort of smoking gun.)
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 59 (view)
 
As a Baby Boomer From the 60's Now IN His 60's...
Posted: 7/24/2016 4:24:34 AM
I believe it was '63, U21984. Montreal Forum.

But I confess I hardly listen to music at all these days, even the old stuff. I'm too addicted to the color pictures that move.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Is it a crime to be a male on this website?
Posted: 7/7/2016 12:34:30 PM
I don't contest the right of PoF's management to make rules. It DOES burn my bottom when the rules are gender-discriminatory... like who can send or have private images; the age limits for younger users are asymmetrical; search algorithms select for men taller than women and making more money than women; some features are available for only one gender, and the lot.

Doesn't anyone else remember when business owners would defend their racist hiring or admission policies by saying it was "just business" because customers were offended by the presence of visible minorities? Oh, that's right - it's STILL happening!
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Istanbul Ataturk airport attack: At least 28 dead and dozens injured
Posted: 7/7/2016 12:18:13 PM
Gotomustang: you blew the adage. It's "even a stopped clock is right twice a day." And that's not 50%.

DessertTray: Gun control isn't an issue in heavily-defended sites like airports, which are crawling with security. The first bomber at Ataturk was in fact shot by a gun-toting guard, and as a result blew himself up OUTSIDE the termina;, where fatalities would likely have been worse.

On the other hand, firearms enforcement can help reduce many of the random family-and-friends murders that make up roughly half of all non-suicide firearms deaths in the US.

Remember that existing restrictions of criminals and persons considered of high risk (like terror watch-list inhabitants and some mentally ill) is hampered by 1) the provision that firearms fairs and shows are exempt from background checks, and 2) the federal law prohibiting law-enforcement agencies from using computers to compile, consult or communicate results in related databases.

It's not that law-enforcement agencies are so sloppy - they are deliberately hindered by legislation spawned by the firearms industry. Even the NRA has had to move further in the direction of unrestricted access and use of firearms by lobbyist pressure.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
What's Love Juice
Posted: 7/7/2016 12:15:38 PM
Wimbledon's a tennis tournament, and "love" means no score in a set. Where the juice comes from is beyond me.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Username search
Posted: 7/7/2016 12:02:52 PM
Shrt'n'Spicy: I think that's right- username search works when you're not logged in, but not when you are. Markus isn't running the place any more, so who's the lazy programmer?

Oh, and I can't help saying that your main photo today is the best smile I've seen on PoF for a long time!
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
What do women stars truly desire?
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:54:33 AM
Performers of all sort live on and need affection and validation. It's not surprising that, as many women do to, people who love them and can be counted on to be honest and supportive are important. Especially in the Rock-star world of users and betrayers.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Messaging Them and No Response
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:51:39 AM
BORWNEYESBOO: I don't think there is anyone out there using office staff to recruit women. Virtually ALL attempts to get you to visit a web site are in fact people trying to make money off you as "promotional affiliates." Very often, the web address ends with an ID number that credits the sleazebag for luring you to their ads, drive-by attacks, or membership solicitations, which is a dead giveaway.

Contact people ONLY by phone or E-mail if you want to do so outside PoF. And if you receive E-mail, open it in text mode to prevent links in the HTML from attacking you or sending info to remote sites.

Remember, the web is a cesspool. It's all Al Gore's fault for privatizing the internet and opening it to the criminal universe.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
As a Baby Boomer From the 60's Now IN His 60's...
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:40:26 AM
I saw all four Beatles in Montreal for $4.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
How much do you spend to get a just abome min wage job?
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:35:13 AM
Nobody should ever be required to pay an application fee, or provide a SIN/SSN number to any entity until they are to be receiving income from that entity.

Any employment agency that charges the applicant a fee is a scam and will never get you a job - like a pay dating site, they'd rather just keep milking you rather than let you get what you're seeking.

Nobody should ever accept unpaid work, or pee in a cup (unless in a safety-related job legislatively requiring it), because it makes things worse for everyone out there.

On the other hand, a regulated fee for a criminal records check, when the job requires it, is reasonable and does not go to the employer.

If they want to do a credit check, they can pay for it themselves. There is a valid concern that people in deep debt may be more likely to try to steal or embezzle.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
User name search no longer available?
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:20:36 AM
Still works today.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Suggestion: Implement a way to search by username
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:20:09 AM
Mouse Pajamas - you do do know you can set your profile to not show who you've viewed, don't you? Check your mail settings tab while editing your profile.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Looking to upgrade?
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:15:41 AM
Just a thought here - not a conclusion:

Might the idea that stable pairings be more common (and I don't know that they are) when the man sees the woman as a better catch than himself be related to the stereotype (again not one I accept) that women lose desirability with age (physical and reproductive decline), whereas men can keep advancing in their careers? So that starting out with a more desirable woman helps slow the arrival of the point where a man wants something better?

This only makes any sense if we accept the idea, steeped in centuries of male-dominated marriage theology, that it's always about pay-for-puddytat.

And pootie on that.

As always, every person and every relationship is different. We all have to think about what we want, what our partners want, and if we are honestly communicating those wants and needs.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
I get blocked a lot
Posted: 7/7/2016 11:01:28 AM
Are you sure you were blocked, and not just running into a message content filter unwittingly? Just mentioning that four-letter word for "financial institution" will trigger that, among many other secret flash-words.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 178 (view)
 
Feel the Bern! (and Elizabeth?)
Posted: 7/7/2016 10:48:47 AM
YULE LIQUOR: Historically, most companies have placed factories in target customer countries to defuse protectionism.

GM has Opel and other brands made in Europe; Ford had Ford and other models made all over the world. Chrysler is now foreign-owned, and I am not aware of Chrysler-branded products made overseas at the moment.

Toyota, Honda, Nissan and others have manufacturing plants in the US and Canada. Only a few exotics are aftermarket-converted to US standards after import.

On the other hand, some places like Japan don't import US cars because the US makers aren't willing to accommodate local laws or tastes - like for cars that consume less gas, fit into tiny roads or parking places, etc. Pretty much all foreign autos seen Stateside are either US-assembled or special-market versions that meet US laws. Cars built in the US (as opposed to US company operations overseas) are pretty much never available in right-had-drive versions.

FOREIGN COST DIFFERENTIALS:

The commonly-cited MIT study concluded that Apple's Chinese-made products would only cost $30-$40 more if assembled in the US, perhaps $100 more with more US components. (9to5mac.com/2016/06/13/iphone-made-in-usa-cost/)

Other opinions:
www.marketplace.org/2014/05/20/business/ive-always-wondered/how-much-would-all-american-iphone-cost - $2000

www.technologyreview.com/s/601491/the-all-american-iphone/ - just 5% more for US assembly

voxeu.org/article/how-iphone-widens-us-trade-deficit-china - "Selling iPhones assembled by American workers at $500 per unit would still leave a 50% profit margin for Apple"

The Forbes study seems to be behind a paywall. :)

Keep in mind that the chief driver of iPhone costs is Apple's exceptionally high gross profit margins, 62-65% in what I've read, because of their monopolistic market hold. Steve Gates was an IP and marketing guru, not an engineer of any great skill.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 372 (view)
 
Freedom of Speech............Shalom?
Posted: 7/7/2016 10:12:06 AM
OJ126, what you say makes no sense... jews the "first and most drastically mixed race?" On the contrary, jews have been reproductively isolated both by others and from internal pressure to "keep the tribe pure." That's why they make it extremely hard to convert or marry into the faith, and have (as do many religions) strong pressures to marry "their own." It's a pretty repulsive world view, but they are not alone in this.

On the other hand, it's a big part of why they don't want to evangelize or expand to take over the whole world. And, like any exclusionist tribal society, it promotes resentment by judging "others" as "not good enough."

I wish I didn't have to add this, but I know some people will think me a hater: my mother was from Fiddler on the Roof, and my father from Shindler's List. I rejected the religion and the tribalism because I came to value behaviour, not blood.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 220 (view)
 
Freedom of Speech?
Posted: 3/29/2016 6:13:49 AM
This applies there as well, caballerosiempre. Just hasn't been on topic. One could list endless cases, frequently with groups swapping power and still having all the empathy of a D0uche.

How does everyone feel about the "judgemental maps?" Our local news showed one of the three provided for Vancouver. They impose a world cloud of stereotypes on a neighbourhood map of the town. Dozens of other towns have received the same treatment, too.

Is it art? Is it social commentary? Is it racist (only some of the labels can be considered race-related, but would it be even worse to delete them? Is it consciousness-raising? legitimate black(-ish?) humor? Does it make us think? Does it make us want to not think?

And should it be suppressed?
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 213 (view)
 
Freedom of Speech?
Posted: 3/24/2016 3:41:25 PM
I just know I'll be wallowing into the Big Muddy if I say ANYTHING on a thread like this, but...

Zionists have no interest in making jews out of palestinians. They just want to be the permanently controlling Top Dogs in the "national homeland" they control, and their historical attempts to preserve a patina of fairness and equality have always shriveled away when it comes to preserving that dominance.

And the Islamic State mother-rapers feel the same about the territory THEY control. That's why they're killing everyone not fitting their particular membership profile.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 102 (view)
 
Should I simply give up on dating?
Posted: 3/23/2016 9:10:50 AM
I don't know that not trying helps. People I know who go through long periods alone tend to go through cycles:

A. "I'm gonna get out there agressively!"
B. "I'm just going to wait for something to happen."
C. "I give up I'm gonna be a hermit."

[repeat until too depressed]

ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Why no Never Been In Relationship option
Posted: 3/22/2016 9:05:00 AM
Is that your house in the photo with your car? :)
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Guys who assume...
Posted: 3/22/2016 9:03:20 AM
I wouldn't ever assume that someone didn't want a relationship just because their idea of a relationship included touching, feeling and the like.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Found dead, eaten by cats
Posted: 3/22/2016 8:44:02 AM
B Hasenpfeffer: I have never seen a cat try to eat one of their dead confreres, and I have known many cats and seen their passings over the years. I already depicted my friend's cat's reaction to his companion's death: a brief sniffing, then ignoring the body.

Cats are apex carnivores and prefer to kill their own meals; they avoid carrion as far as possible. Cats will join other cats to share kills, but will only eat carrion in desperate circumstances - certainly not when well-fed housepets.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 86 (view)
 
Should I simply give up on dating?
Posted: 3/13/2016 1:24:05 AM
The sad reality is that most guys who can't get date or form relationships are not going to be able to find anyone willing to have random sex with them either.

AIR DOLL is a wonderful film by Kore-Eda, in which an inflatable pleasure doll in Tokyo suddenly comes to life - as a beautiful, human-seeming blow-up doll. She then gets a very unusual look at the Great Existential Questions from a slightly different viewpoint.

Discussing the classic with a cinema friend two days ago left me with a memory that prompts me to note another important difference between a real, live woman and a manufactured simulacrum: real women clean themselves up after.

ED BEAR (where's that running-away icon when I need it?)
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
He throws and says mean things when he is mad
Posted: 3/13/2016 1:11:25 AM
If you don't feel safe, go somewhere safe.

If you really think something is making him "not he guy you know," you can consider seeking help from some agency or trusted person. But don't stay where you don't feel safe.

If he's ever hurt anyone before, it's an extra warning.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 343 (view)
 
Planned parent hood selling off fetus parts
Posted: 3/13/2016 12:51:41 AM
Deetristate: I do not argue that having married parents, or at least common-law parents, does not provide a better (healthier, safer, enriched) life for a child.

Dee: "I would venture to guess that in ten percent or less of the "unplanned pregnancies" that the act was unplanned or without consent, at least in the West."

Are you saying that the SEX act, or the IMPREGNATION, was unplanned? Planning the sex act is not the same as planning to impregnate or get impregnated. You are once again deliberately equating them. Deciding to have sex is not the same as deciding to have children. This is why I observe that you consider parenthood as the just desserts of sex. I.e., "punishment."

Drug costs are a critical problem for a great many people in America. I would hope that most men would participate in funding birth control for their partners (though somehow I doubt it), be it barrier or hormonal, but in my (Canadian) experience all the women I know have been able to get their monthly pill contraceptive packs for $1 each at community clinics or school health professionals. I have not looked into Canadian retail prices for them in years - can someone else help us here?

In the US, Planned Parenthood is the most prominent option for women not registered in schools, and with luck and lawsuits most health plans should cover the costs, too. Anyone know what costs are at PP and other community clinics in their area?

ALL: I certainly see the threat to social stability that biased gender-selection makes. Men are demonstratively more prone to violence, and if they are all going to fight over a smaller pool of women, it doesn't bode well for world peace - or respect of a woman's right to say "N0!"

ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
New Uploader Won't Work for me
Posted: 3/13/2016 12:30:47 AM
Nobody else having trouble? Anyone using Linux out there?
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 85 (view)
 
Think before you post?
Posted: 3/10/2016 1:38:30 AM
In times like these, Snopes can be your only friend.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
An interesting conundrum
Posted: 3/10/2016 1:32:06 AM
The sudden thirst for pipeline projects is because, in a time of low oil prices, nobody's drilling new wells. The existing wells are still producing, but all the people involved in construction and exploration - drillers, derrek-builders, pipeline-layers, upgraders and the lot - can do construction on pipelines while hoping the oil price will recover.

We have lots of pipelines and, overall, very few problems. We know how to do this. But if we build them, will they come for our expensive oil?
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 341 (view)
 
Nobody has proven the lying attacks on Planned Parenthood
Posted: 3/10/2016 1:15:58 AM
I'm not saying anything about immigration or distribution. There is a limit, somewhere, to how many people can live decently on the earth, given our current and possible levels of tech. It's world-wide.

Malthus said that plague, war and famine would limit population if people didn't. People didn't.

In the last century, we learned how to extract ever more energy and food from the earth. But we ran into other limits, of dumping waste and changing our seas and atmosphere. There are always limits somewhere. And the less fortunate regions of the planet are wanting to improve their lot, not make sacrifices.

How much are you willing to sacrifice? What do you think other people should sacrifice?
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Images - Really, something's changed!
Posted: 2/23/2016 11:26:26 PM
But it hasn't been answered for the new uploader... by this I mean since there were two uploaders, a Flash and a non-Flash one.

I've been here since 2016, and never had problems uploading until this week, with the exact same image files I've used before.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Kissing Ladies on the Hand?
Posted: 2/23/2016 11:18:39 PM
I've kissed hands quite often. Seriously. With all sorts of women of all ages.

It's a nice way of showing respect or even affection that, for most people, stops short of "invading personal space." There's corny anachronistic humour in it as well as evidence you're not dismissing someone as unworthy just because you don't make a move on them. It's hard for anyone to get outraged while they're laughing and feeling complimented. It works on the mothers of dates, on the partners of friends you don't want to feel they're only there because their partner is, and as an ice-breaker.

Does anyone remember my "Wash your hands" story? ;)
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
An interesting question
Posted: 2/23/2016 11:13:12 PM
As a Canadian born in Eastern Canada in the 1950s, a time and place where circumcision was pretty routine, I can say that...

I certainly am not comfortable with irrevocable choices being made for children... but parents DO have the right and responsibility to make choices for children incapable of them. Ergo, cleanliness, vaccination, education, dietary choices, medical treatment, clothing, hairstyles...

A certainly consider that religion "a lot of hoo-hah."

But I am still danged glad my parents chose to circumcise me!
ED BEAR

It even smells better that way.
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Youth for Wallace
Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:35 PM
George Wallace recanted, renounced and denounced racial segregation and identity politics, and died a very changed man from the angry hater he became famous as.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
An interesting conundrum
Posted: 2/23/2016 11:00:33 PM
OPEC was created, in fact, for just such a purpose - to keep competitors out of the market by pushing down prices when they try to enter the market. It's NOT free-market capitalism; it's monopolistic cartel manipulation.

Ever noticed how American towns with an oil refinery have HIGHER prices than those that don't? It's because the advantage of the local refiner keeps competitors out of the market. If they try to come in, they can't beat the local price because they have transport costs, and the local producer can keep making money while they go broke. So they don't enter the market.

This happens when one or a few firms take over and buy out whole industries, as with Amazon and Google, with enough money to wipe out any competition.

It's why Air Canada - freshly privatized with a $900 million bank account - could wipe out Canadian Airlines, which had been bought by Pacific Western Airlines in a hugely leveraged deal that saddled them with debt costs instead of cash reserves. And why Canadian Airlines was so stupid to launch a price war with Air Canada.

It's why Elon Musk, with all his PayPal riches, could create Uber, and try to run every taxi company in the world out of business. When that happens, such companies can then raise prices, secure in the knowledge that nobody will enter a market dominated by a company that can out-wait them all while losing lots of money.

And it's why western capitalist countries have (or had, in the case of the US) have anti-trust and competition laws. There is no free market without the basic qualities of a free market: enough competitors, easy entry into the market for both sellers and buyers, easy changing of suppliers, and so on.

See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Competition

A monopoly, or a cartel like OPEC, prevents competition and enriches its participants.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 164 (view)
 
Absolutely there is a Gravity Wave.
Posted: 2/23/2016 10:43:51 PM
Funchest: A SQUARE is a PLANE figure. It is defined as existing in a plane. The surface of a piece of paper is not a plane figure; it's not a square, except in everyday approximation. (Or a rectangle, round coaster, or Green Bay Cheesehead hat.)

To amplify on Norwegian Guy said, nothing in the real world is a square - any more than a wire is a line or a dot is a point. A square - a perfect square - does exist, but as a conceptual object. One can easily visualize the set of points in a square - if one has a "flat" orthogonal 3-space. Our everyday 3-space is, if Einstein & co. are correct, not flat; it is distorted by gravity and - yes, here it comes - gravity waves. (See, I'm not off-topic!)

There are all manner of non-plane surfaces, such as spheres, saddles and pseudospheres, that are truly two-dimensional but not flat. Torii, too, for that matter, cylinders, prisms, polyhedrons, whatever. There are no "squares" on a non-plane surface.

A space (such as a zero-dimensional point, a 1-dimensional line, a two-dimensional surface, or a 3-dimensional 3-D space) is classified by how many dimensions must be supplied to specify any arbitrary point in that space.

One needs so dimensions to specify a point in a point. There is only one point.

One needs two non-parallel dimensions (X and Y, for example, or direction and distance from an origin) to specify any point in 2-space.

One needs three non-parallel dimensions to specify any point in 3-space. And so on for 4-dimensional space-time, or any higher-dimensional space, such as the proper fuel/air mix in an engine fuel-injection map depending on 4 or more input parameters. (Say, throttle setting, air temperature, fuel temperature, engine temperature, atmospheric pressure, turbo pressure, transmission gear, exhaust gas oxygen content, and so on...)

Where fractals come into it is that some consider a fractal - which fills a specific fraction of a plane or 3-space - can specify much of a higher dimension. A particular curve can be treated as having a dimensionality of, say, 1.2.

For example, it takes two dimensions to specify any point in a plane - but a fractal that is known to fill 1/3 of the plane can specify all of the points along it (and that's 1/3 of the total number of points in a place) with only one dimension plus the information contained in the fractal's configuration. We can't get to any point in a city by following only bus routes, but a significant proportion of those points CAN be reached, and we can walk or taxi to the remaining points relatively easily.

ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Think before you post?
Posted: 2/23/2016 10:26:58 PM
FGRN: I am a Canadian, 62 years old. I've visited nine of ten provinces and spent time in thirty-seven of fifty states. I get to watch Canadian and US news, read all manner of literature and talk to people on endless forums, even before there was in internet, let alone the weeb. Learning knows no borders unless you lock your TV set on one channel. I've had a US Senator stuff one of those mini-constitutions they always carry into my jacket pocket after a lengthy discussion, as they always do. I've taken courses on political science and political philosophy, and listened to a lot of ideas. Some of my high-school teachers came back from civil rights marches in the US south with broken bones. Some of my college contacts never came back from overseas trouble spots. And I've read literally thousands of books, plus assorted other magazines and news stories.

I went to a large, well-respected university where a quarter of the students were from Other Places, and mixed with and explored the world with them. (Grad photo on my profile page for reference. If you know the colors, you can guess the school.

I certainly don't know everything about everything, but I haven't kept my eyes and ears closed all these years. I don't think I can be dismissed as an ignorant foreigner. I DO believe in acquiring common values and respect; I think that the creation of ghettos is not a workable form of "multiculturalism"; it depends on NOT segregating people. Contact brings acceptance and appreciation.

There's been plenty of philosophical analysis about the changes from tribal to humanist alignment. I am not on your side about racial identity.

And, yes, I am straying from reason into humour when I say that you feel isolated in today's world because you are, unlike most US citizens, a dinosaur.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 32 (view)
 
STOP THE HATE ; SEPARATE !!!!
Posted: 2/23/2016 10:07:49 PM
Segregated areas, Vlad, are not "diverse." They are, more or less, ghettos, and reinforce ideas of stereotypes. Is there de facto segregation there? Yes. Is it a good thing? No, in my opinion.

I don't think the UK has the same regional differences as Canada or the US; the Isles are much more compact, in size and in media availability. That is, much of the US and Canada never see anyone different from themselves, even on TV.

FGRN83: the very idea of cultural identity is buggered. Once you accept it, all manner of hate can "rationally" follow. But one can draw lines of identity anywhere, usually where convenient for self-interest. I reject it; I see people as "like me" or "unlike me" on an individual judgment, not broad-brush labels. If I don't know anything about someone, I try to avoid judging them by crude classifications.

ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 337 (view)
 
Nobody has proven the lying attacks on Planned Parenthood
Posted: 2/23/2016 10:00:01 PM
Now you're just twisting my words, over and over.

I'm not feeling sorry about Africa; I'm feeling alarmed that you think overpopulation in Africa won't harm the entire world, not just Africa. It's not a distribution problem - unless you plan to "distribute" the excess waste and CO2 all in Africa, where it won't stay. And it will make people mad at you for dumping it all on them.

No matter how much we do without, increased population will undo our efforts. Anyone can readily cut most of their consumption and emissions my about 10%. By the time you get to 20%, you're getting serious pushback. And if the population of the world is doubling in 20-25 years, that means HALVING our standard of living (or doubling every sort of efficiency) every 20-25 years. Good luck.

And I'm not saying that children are a bad thing; I'm saying that there's no reason that having sex should require marriage or parenting. You are saying that children are the deserved consequences (and thus a threat of punishment) of having sex. You keep deliberately repeating your distortions, but I think everyone else knows what I am saying.

There's nothing noble about having an abortion. There's nothing noble about having kids you can't love or care for.

ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Did I blow my chances with this girl? Does she hate me for what I did or said. Is it fixable?
Posted: 2/22/2016 6:43:29 AM
*** WARNING ***

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GET ANYONE ELSE A PHONE UNLESS THE ACCOUNT IS IN THEIR NAME!

Otherwise you will face endless charges, particularly overseas ones (international student, eh?), forever. And the cost of the contract until it ends.

NEVER give ANYONE authority to spend your money. They will, and then you will want it back, and they will laugh and be cruel.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
New Uploader Won't Work for me
Posted: 2/22/2016 6:00:57 AM
I've been a longtime user at PoF, and had seven photos up until tonight. I always used the Basic Uploader, rather than the Flash uploader, because I won't put Flash on my computer. I'm running Ubuntu Linux, by the way.

I was able to delete one photo, but not upload any new ones. I tried with two JPEGs, several times. They were prepared with GIMP, from digital photos, as have all my previous photos. Uploading one of my older images also failed. I WAS able to designate a new Main Image from the existing ones in the system.

The Imaged Upload page now shows only "UPLOAD IMAGES" or "FROM FACEBOOK" buttons. Not being a FaceBooker, I chose the former, and a window popped up asking me to designate an image. Each time, I did.

The screen dimmed a bit and a small ring appeared in the centre of the screen, fading from aqua to white around it but NOT rotating as "wait" icons usually do. And that was that. My computer didn't lock up - other tabs let me navigate PoF - but nothing got uploaded.

I don't know when the uploader was changed. Do others see the little ring rotating? Has anyone else had problems?

UPDATE: I also tried uploading with a friend's Windows XP machine; exact same result, down to the immobile half-aqua ring on a dimmed screen.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Added as a friend, hit wrong link, now I can't find the user?!?!?
Posted: 2/22/2016 3:43:41 AM
Tam0315 - If you have a message from or to the user, you can see them, even by searching for their name.

If you are their favourite, or they are yours, you can see them.

If they are a forum user, forum users can link from their forum posts.
ED BEAR
 ed bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Advertising trashy websites
Posted: 2/22/2016 3:34:47 AM
If you don't like other people making the decisions about what you see, you can "roll your own" HOSTS file to block selected content. When you see something you don't want to see, or that causes problems for your computer:

Hold your cursor over the offending image or link.

Note the URL in the lower left corner of your browser window (that's where it will be in most browsers).

Add that URL to your HOSTS file.

It's GOOOONNNNEEEEE!

If you want a good start on most of the worst ad sources, there's a basic skeleton HOSTS file at pglDOTyoyoDOTorg - replace the DOT with periods and Bob's your uncle. (If you have an uncle named Bob.) They also explain how to find, use and maintain your HOSTS file.

This way, you can still let sites you like earn some money but protect yourself from Flash, trojans, videos and the rest from the scummier side of the web. Which is most of it, sadly.
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