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 Author Thread: Have you slept with a partner's parent??????
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Have you slept with a partner's parent??????
Posted: 10/1/2008 4:54:41 AM
who....me??????????????
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Have you slept with a partner's parent??????
Posted: 9/28/2008 4:00:02 PM
This isn't disgusting. Some of you are just a bit too sensitive and in denial over how immoral we all live, and then cherry pick the things we don't believe in but hide behind the things we do and try to justify then as ok.

Fact is.....no non-marital sex is legitimate sex. That include those of you having sex with your boyfriends and girlfriends.

Then there are good men like me who get rejected for no valid justifications, mostly by women with their own skeletons.

I think no one has a right to judge. If it's not your preference, it's not your thing.

I think it's equally disgusting, for sake of argument, to reject a man who wants to settle down and chooses not to be a single parent or a parent until after he is married, who will never cheat on his woman. But hey, most of you reject men like that.

So I will defer my judgment on this issue to give it a fair trial with other things done to and by other people.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 151 (view)
 
My boyfriend is addicted to strip clubs
Posted: 9/28/2008 3:44:04 PM
The truth of the matter is this. The whole relationship picture in America is out of sync. We have a general behavior that creates many discrepancies, and we have issues with the effects but not the cause. We continue to try to have our cake and eat it too, then complain or wonder why things are going wrong.

Sex is a multi-billion dollar industry and there aren't enough single men to keep it afloat. It's also part business how men primarily are lured to it. You can't log on to the internet without women trying to lure us to their porn sites, to the point we even mistype a web address by 1 letter and we get pop ups or tits and a$$ on the screen wanting our credit card numbers.

There is not necessarily something "wrong " with him., though it may be, or it may be something wrong with you. Either way, there is a misconception of how real and committed the relationship really is. Women tend to carry expectations that are ultimatums, and will stick to them, but expect us to just give in and be ok with it. Then you have situations where women choose no good men but try to make them do right, and ignore the ones that will do right by default. It truly amazes me how every other woman I meet or talk to is "tired of liars, cheaters, dogs, players, a$$holes" and "demands" honesty and a real man.

A man is going to do what he is going to do if he is allowed to get away with it, just as women do. Both sexes misbehave and live from the outside and not the inside, no matter how much they think otherwise.

Personally, if you're not married, there is nothing "wrong" with going to strip clubs to take a load off. It's nothing but a bar with different amenities. That is...if his hormones are in control. Admiration for the female form can be a good thing. BUT....you should still assure that.

My conclusion is.....don't worry about it if you choose to stay with him because you are attached. The only 2 options are to ask him to stop but also allow him to give you any criticisms he may have about you and find a common ground. The 2nd option is to break up without any questions.

Then in the future, check yourself before you check any future man you might acquire.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 72 (view)
 
Open relationships all around?
Posted: 7/27/2008 7:14:14 AM
grapevine....you said never ever ever but then you said been there done that? So do you mean never ever ever again?

While I agree with that you said, I saw that conflict. But anyway....

There are a lot of people that embrace open relationships and extra marital activity, and those that CONSCIOUSLY don't approve will usually end up in a situation anyway, either through pressure, curiosity or accident. During this period, the man, or woman that has stay pure is usually one who is ignored or judged. This mostly affects men, believe it or not.

Men generally are upfront or will go behind your back without question, whereas women will try to validate their actions as legitimate. I hear it a lot, women don't cheat as much as men because, for example, women "thought" they were broken up and the next day, slept with another man, then reconciled the day after.

No matter how we try to play this....you got what you paid for. As a man who has never been in a open relationship, but never been in a real relationship either, by so-called good woman who chose not to choose me, I can either join the club, or continue to accept rejection by women who will more times than not, end up in a bad relationship and some will then want me 5, 10, 15 years later after they realize I was the good one all along. But if I now choose to "experiment", I get called out by women who HAVE done it, whether through deceit, pressure or by choice but have changed their ways.

I've only had sex about 2 times a year since 2001, and it was NEVER me who stopped calling. Talk about nice guys finish last. I'm not about to let a women who has played the field, expect me to be a saint, if I choose to change my agenda as a result of experience. Who's the commodity here?

While I don't condone open relationships, I understand why it's so widespread. My experience is just one of many examples. Even a Porsche will break down if you don't change the oil. Good men (and women) are still human with needs. If anyone wonders why open relationships are so widespread, look in the mirror.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 205 (view)
 
Is it okay for a woman to hit a man?
Posted: 7/27/2008 6:01:32 AM
To say that because the woman is the weaker sex....went out the door 50 years ago when women decided they refused to be the weaker sex and demanded equality. A popular term was....I can do anything a man can do.

It was the woman who made the decision. If you can do anything a man can do and claim equality, then you're emulating the strength of a man when you think you can raise your hand to him at your disposal. You've basically become a man equivalent, therefore you can take a hit. A man had a right to defend himself, even if he is physically more powerful than you.

Sometimes it is necessary not only to defend himself from actual harm, but to prevent further harm in the future by bringing you back down to your level of being a WOMAN. It's dangerous when a woman, emotionally strong by nature, portrays a man's role mixed with that emotion. The popularity of temporary insanity and the newly dubbed "sudden passion", are the excuses that women, most commonly use to justify their actions and stay out of prison for their rising domestic abuse, which now accounts for 1 out of every 4 incidents, and rising.

Real has nothing to do with it because the contamination of our human and moral values are not gender dependent. When you're dysfunctional, yet still claiming yourself to be functional, it will never work out in the end regardless.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 142 (view)
 
Being truthful doesnt always work
Posted: 6/28/2008 1:31:45 PM
That's true, very true. The bigger picture though is it doesn't end there. The reason so many of us are facing this today is that if we simply walk away from a lie, the lie is still there, waiting to hook someone else until they catch on, and so on and so on. Eventually there is a buildup of bad apples that there less and less good apples out there but the same number of people who are looking for apples.

We spend so much time advising each other to just walk away from a lie but then we aren't addressing the root problem, so the lies persist. It's no rocket science why this story becomes more and more people's story as the days, weeks, months, years go by. It also is no hocus pocus why more and more people are alone while at the same time more and more men/women are playing games.

We face enough more serious issues in America than having to deal with this preventable insecurity.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 141 (view)
 
Being truthful doesnt always work
Posted: 6/28/2008 11:34:17 AM
Truth and honesty are not the same thing. People tend to treat them like they are and like the instructions in a manual says..."Do not remove the cover from this product. Only a trained and authorized technician should open."

But everyone wants to think they are qualified to be experts on honesty.

There is only 1 truth but there are 100 ways to be honest about it. The truth is the way is it, honesty is the way you feel about it. Beware of people who say they want honesty because it doesn't mean they can handle the truth. Most people say they want honesty because it's safe and gives them a feeling of security. Key word...feeling.

What the truth does is challenges that "feeling", and it will turn it into an actual confirmation of security or a threat.

The truth comes in only 1 form. It's like water. The moment you try to tweak or customize it to make it more pleasant, it's no longer the truth. You can add flavor to the water, sweeten it with sugar or NutraSweet but it's still no longer just water.

I always say...why be honest with someone who lies to themselves? They will never believe you because you're speaking in opposite of them. That's why so many men lie to women. Simply put, it works.

If I get rejected by a woman who is an opportunist, and then I lie and say I have a BMW but it's in the shop, and I'm rich but all my money is in the Cayman Islands, but it convinces the woman to get naked, then I'm going to say it. Am I going to feel bad when she finds out the truth and then calls me every name in the book? She lied to herself so I simply spoke her language.
 whenitrises
Joined: 11/5/2007
Msg: 192 (view)
 
why do men say they love you?
Posted: 11/16/2007 6:38:26 AM
Men lie. Why, because it works. If men could tell the truth, they would do that. Telling the truth is much easier and less stressful when women can handle it.

But....see, men are logical, women emotional. Man's strength is in his muscles, woman's in her mouth. This is why in society it is well known that men lie and cheat. Only because of the fact women use their mouth more. But the fact is...women are just as bad or worse. Men are straight up liars and cheaters. Women are devious about how they do it.

Men lie to women because women lie to themselves. Why does a man have to tell you he loves you unless it was necessary? When women stop lying to themselves, then men will stop lying to them. In the end, he still got you in bed and in the end, it's only the liars and cheaters that can say...I GOT THE BOOTY. Most honest, good men that don't lie or cheat are still to this day....dateless, womenless, and sexless.

Women also cheat as much as men do, if you do the math correctly. The actual act of sex with another woman will always be what men do more than women because it's human nature. Testosterone makes men this way. Estrogen makes women more emotional. Men seek sex, women seek security. My advice to women is....get over it. Stop trying to change men's nature to get what you want, but learn to deal with his needs and yours in harmony.

This is how women cheat as much as men. You try to cheat our very beings to get your way. Also, how many times you see women have sex with other men, but they "were broken up with they men" or "thought they were broken up", and conveniently gets back together the next day.

Both men and women are wrong for their misdeeds, but it always seems to start with a woman. I don't lie and almost 7 years later, women still act surprised why I don't have a sexlife. Hey, I tell the truth. I don't say I love you if I don't.
 
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