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Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
Proved my point
Posted: 4/8/2018 12:10:55 AM
Original question unsolved.......
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 52 (view)
Big clit, ovaries hang low
Posted: 3/8/2018 7:49:31 PM

Why would it be different for someone who identifies as male/female, regardless of the genitalia identified at birth, and wants the company of the same or different male/female identification?

Can someone please explain the process by which someone "identifies" their gender?

And explain by what they have come to the finding that they are, in fact, the opposite to which they were biologically born with?
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 57 (view)
Girlfriend has sexual aversion
Posted: 2/16/2018 6:09:18 PM
Well ok then, if I were in love with a low to no sex drive woman who still wanted to be together then here would be the simple parameters:
Open relationship. I get to go screw now and then when I need to and she accepts that, in return she gets my love support etc and doesnt have to sleep with me.
When this very reasonable offer is put on the table, people tend to show their true colors, such as change their minds, say hell no,say things like "ok I didnt want you sexually I just loved our companionship but if I could, I`d screw that guy over there....and that guy....oh and him too, he`s hot...."
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 35 (view)
POF = Plenty of Fakes
Posted: 2/16/2018 5:45:25 PM
There definitely are some fakes on here. I have seen a fair share of them myself, they seem to come and go.
For some reason they`ll have a double name like SherrySherry or SusanSusan and then a pic of a 22 year old with a profile that says shes 46yes old and standing at 5'11"
Also, when I do a search in my area (western Michigan) many of the womens profiles point out that there are plenty of fake profiles on here.

exactly. it's not the site. it's the person. if you're not all that great a catch, then it won't matter which avenue you use.

Wow, what a thing to say.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 26 (view)
What to do with this woman!
Posted: 10/2/2017 5:02:14 PM
I`ve recently come to the conclusion that once your mind starts to become suspicious it`ll keep finding ways of telling you she`s cheating when nothing of the sort is going on. And also, that jealous behavior that makes us want to spy on our partner could just lead them to say screw this controlling idiot, I`m gonna start fishing for a new partner.

I`ve been there before.
And I could write a long and drawn out version of how my mind wandered to all these scenarios as to what she`d been up to and how I was convinced that she was being sneaky but I was one step ahead of her, I knew what she was up to though I had no concrete proof, etc.
It was making me crazy and it bothered me how crazy it was making me, thinking she was seeing other men and planning to replace me.
Some of my suspicions were similar to your own about her behaviors and how my brain was telling my why she was acting that way, thinking she was going out on dates etc.

I debated whether to talk with her about it but decided that my mind was already in that suspicion mode so matter what she told me my brain would just tell me she was covering up.
I dont need to feed my mind anymore material to keep it racing around accusing her of things and end up where the OP is now.

I reminded myself that I dont subscribe to conspiracy/ BS theories like some of the popular ones floating around out there, so theres no reason to allow my own mind to conjure up conspiracy theories about my girlfriend.
Our minds will build some pretty convincing tales regarding "whats REALLY going on" if we allow them so I made a decision to stop my brain from messing with me anymore.

So I asked a couple questions: do I want to spend time with her? Yes. Does she treat me good? Yes.
Then I dont have any reason to build conspiracy theories against her.
I will take her at face value, stop checking to see if she`s logged on here, fb, etc and just enjoy our time together.
I have been very happy ever since.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 41 (view)
Shipping-In Some Real Science
Posted: 8/31/2017 5:50:39 PM

A couple of basic points:

1. It isn't intelligent or rational or logical to make changes to a system in response to a challenge, before you have discovered what the challenge actually IS.

And that should be the end of it.

While we`re at it, can people please stop saying ".....we put a man on the moon, we should be able to......"
Add infinitude.......I am tired to death of trying build all the cross reference charts needed to prove all this `effing s h t can actually be done.....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 427 (view)
and its Henry for the win
Posted: 8/31/2017 5:32:06 PM
Ahhh.....I`ll come back when the original subject matter is being discussed again.......
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 27 (view)
Writing a cool profile
Posted: 8/31/2017 5:26:16 PM
If you`re trying to look cool, write a cool looking profile.
If you`re trying to catch a date, write date story.
If you`re trying to catch a fish, write a story which takes advantage of the uncontrollable instincts of hungry fish.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
A thought regarding Eternity
Posted: 7/22/2017 11:14:41 AM

The answer is never.

For two reasons.

1. The ant does not have enough mass to create enough friction to cause any wear.

2. If it could cause wear, that matter would still exist and at best you could have a giant dust ball.

None of us kids were smart enough to think of that.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 240 (view)
Am I being made to feel less than a woman for lack of 'assets'?
Posted: 7/21/2017 3:33:32 PM

The thing about porn.....when men say they're watching it for the women, aren't they watching the men also? I think there's a lot of crossover there. Men watching porn have seen more throbbing and exploding penises than women have experienced in their lives. Funny how men are okay with that, it's very telling.

Yes, the "money shot. "

This was explained in an episode of Beavis and Butthead, in which they were talking about Ron Jeremy.

In short (pun unavoidable)~
Beavis told Butthead "I wasnt looking AT his weiner, I was looking AROUND his weiner....huh..huh...huh.."
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
A thought regarding Eternity
Posted: 7/21/2017 3:07:21 PM
I spent many of my younger years in Catechism.
It was twice a week (Tuesdays and Thursdays) for a couple hours each class.

Some were spent in the classroom of a small, older school building with either the cranky old lady who was a DEVOUT Catholic (boring and stuffy) or the smokin` HOT single lady who just had`nt found the right man yet
(my brothers and I favorite class).... and some were spent with one of the 2 priests who ran the church, Father Don, and Father Conan.
Every once in a great while, we`d get a special visit from Father Clemens, who was VERY old and in a wheelchair for what seemed like my entire childhood and early teen years.
I think he was 177 last time I seen him.

Anyhow, obviously I learned more from the priests than I did the women, beings that in my younger years women were either hot or not, and I would`nt be paying any attention to the curriculum either way.

During one class with Father Conan he was talking about eternity. He asked us if anyone could understand just how long eternity really is, since its never ending. A few good ideas came up, but Father Conan had one the best that I`d ever heard and it inspires some deep thought.

He said to first, imagine that our sun were turned into a giant, solid steel ball.

Now imagine that upon this great big steel ball, there were placed an ant.

Now this ant is eternal, never dies, and his body never wears out, ever.
He likes to walk, and he never stops walking.

Now imagine that he takes off walking on this steel sun.
How long do you think it`d take this tiny ant, for all his many, many, MANY footsteps, to wear this steel ball down to until its too small for him to walk upon anymore?

And when he`s done with our sun, he moves on and begins walking upon all the other stars in our entire universe until they are worn down too.

As long as that would take, that amount of time would not even be anything close to what eternity is.

~Father Conan~
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 133 (view)
Why is there human life on earth?
Posted: 7/21/2017 1:57:34 PM

To yourstillhere,

There already exist a billion reasons to know that this universe and life are not a random fluke.

You`ll get no dispute from me on that.

I do not, however, subscribe to the notion of the existence of any of the known gods.
Having literally gone there, I do not think it quite works like the more popular followings in this world.
Including the one I was brought up and raised to believe in.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 128 (view)
Why is there human life on earth?
Posted: 7/20/2017 5:09:06 PM

So will you be cherry picking parts that you can fit, or will this be a front to back 100% everything lines up and fits?

You pose a very good question.
I intend to have a 100% everything lines up, fits.................and nothing personal thrown in to try and indoctrinate others based on any personal beliefs, feelings, opinions, agenda, etc....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 58 (view)
Is this true?
Posted: 7/15/2017 8:39:58 PM

communication is a two-way street
if she had other plans for the weekend
your little fingers were capable of texting or picking up phone and calling this woman
and ya know...actually talking to her about it
and about when the two of you can get together
instead it sounds like you got miffy and left

I do not agree ,with your conclusion, obviously.
As far as I'm concerned, I had already ~

1. Asked to see her again|.

2. Received an answer of NO

3. There was no counter offer

My "little fingers" had asked her out on a second date, and her own "little fingers" said NO without a counteroffer.
Case closed, attention and effort focused elsewhere.........
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 120 (view)
Why is there human life on earth?
Posted: 7/15/2017 6:55:44 PM

Tell me more about how science is wrong about an invisible man in the sky.

I have been working on a book which is about science proving that the bible is correct, and that the bible is proving science to also be correct.

If anyone cares to read a tidbit regarding the catalyst for my writings, please visit the forum "Stories/ Creative Writing" and search for my short story "A Walk Through Death"
It is based on a 100% true story, which I did indeed experience first hand.

That story concludes assuming that I`d met, and had been saved by, a well known entity, known throughout the world.

And after a decade of researching, study, fragmented memory rebuilding, meditation, interviews and much calculating, the conclusion of my experience is probably not what anyone posting/reading in this (awesome) thread would expect.

In short, you are all correct in what you post/believe/think/feel/....... in a way.
The hard truth that I`ve found is that none of our existence really matters. We will all be VERY much at peace in the end, and.......well, its going to be alright.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 45 (view)
What do you want from a significant other?
Posted: 7/14/2017 7:14:52 PM
I want the story thats drawn out in my profile.
What we had was pure, real, and true SO TRUE and REAL.
She came to me out of nowheres, we loved each other at almost first sight. We kissed very deeply and very passionately on our very first date, and I whispered to her, "where did you come from?"

and I loved her so deeply, so deeply and she loved me back, we had the same feelings we were connected completely 100% I was her, she was me.
She and I had something that was so real, we just looked at each other and we could literally "see" each other, from day ONE.
We looked each other in the eyes and we could "SEE" each other.
We felt very deeply connected, and we loved each other so very much there was no mistaking that we were meant for one another and that we`d be together forever.

She died.

I do not expect to ever find this again, as this was one of them experiences that take place once in a lifetime but also once in a galaxy.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 61 (view)
What do you get out of this forum?
Posted: 7/14/2017 6:31:11 PM
Free and easy Test Subjects :)
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 246 (view)
Why are guys online so biased against black women
Posted: 7/14/2017 6:25:46 PM

Why is the black girl considered "average" in the face to white guys whereas the white girl is hot and pretty to guys?
Personally, I think the black girl is much more attractive and it's not close--not saying the white one isn't attractive though

This is Mother Nature at work. Evolution, and you`re not going to like me anymore after this.

Many white women, look like attractive, loving, goddesses.

Take a look at the census~ blacks represent only 12% of the population in the Western Hemisphere.
Black men are very attractive to many of the white women.
Many black women, look like angry men on here.

Do you see where Mother Nature is taking this?
Literally breeding the black population out of the Hemisphere.

Now myself, I find many Black women quite attractive, but I will never date nor breed with them, because I do not want to contribute to this annihilation of an entire race via selective breeding.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 174 (view)
Am I being made to feel less than a woman for lack of 'assets'?
Posted: 7/14/2017 6:03:22 PM
Excuse me, Master Baiter but......

How did you......?
Nevermind..... lol.
Snuff them........snuff them all!!!!
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 84 (view)
how to change who you are attracted to
Posted: 7/13/2017 7:16:36 PM

I think many folks are arm chair pop psychologists.

When their LTRs fail, they're quick to apply DSM V terms

Controlling- insists on putting cap back on toothpaste

Narcissistic- doesn't share my preferences

Bad temper - screamed after hitting their hand with a hammer

Hey Jose`, where do you get one of these......arm chairs?

Neurotics build houses in the sky.
Narcissists live in them.
Co-dependents keep them shiny clean :)
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 149 (view)
Bait and Switch
Posted: 7/8/2017 8:40:32 PM
[quote I can say I've never had a horrible date in my life. That would even include the date where the guy pushed me over onto a couch and threw himself on me. That was on a first date and I did not go out with him again. I see every date as an adventure:)

Well then...............
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
What do you want from a significant other?
Posted: 7/8/2017 8:04:47 PM
The very words in my profile say exactly that I want.
I have lived it once and hope to find that again, but I am very doubtful I will ever have it again.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
What do you get out of this forum?
Posted: 7/8/2017 7:52:57 PM
I shouldnt post this but........I`ve learned what I`ve always expected, since I was very young.
So its not so much a learning experience as it has been, a" validation of my suspicions experience. "

People in general are extremely naive, predictable, and therefore, vulnerable to manipulation.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
is it any different over 45 than over 30?...
Posted: 7/8/2017 7:18:07 PM
IME its pretty much the same, people still play plenty of games and you`ll need to play some too in order to get where you want.
As always, dont hate the players..... hate the game.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 426 (view)
their parents are in the iron and steal business
Posted: 7/8/2017 6:47:50 PM
Height is not something that can be changed, however weight is something that can be changed.
When fat people complain about their being passed over for being overweight, it just makes them look all the uglier.
There are any number of means available to help you become more healthy, and the condemnation of anyone who is simply not attracted to overweight people is a waste of time.
Attraction cannot be chosen.

Likewise, when a shorter man has a problem with being passed over, well buddy there isnt anything you can do but work within your means.
Find women who are shorter than yourself, and take peace in the fact that the height problem you struggle with has 2 sides:
There are women who are over 6 foot who wish they were shorter.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 129 (view)
Am I being made to feel less than a woman for lack of 'assets'?
Posted: 7/8/2017 6:33:43 PM
I think the OP is very attractive myself, its sad she dont feel attractive.
Smaller chested looks on women have never been an issue for me, as long as she has some curves and doesnt look manly, I`ll like it!
And when I say curves I mean skinny women too, they all have curves maybe not as pronounced as larger ones but curves are curves are far as I`m concerned :)
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
No sex until commitment
Posted: 7/8/2017 6:25:59 PM
I apologize in advance for this, but there have been number of times I`ve slept with women on the very 1st meet who profoundly stated in their profiles, and to me personally, that there would be no sex before commitment/marriage.

I am not bragging by any means, simply pointing out that when we try to date according to absolutes, such as "I`ll never date a Gold Digger, I`ll never date someone older, I will not commit to a sex addict, I`ll never sleep with....."
~ there are always exceptions, and always someone out there knowing how to exploit these exceptions.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 112 (view)
Posted: 7/8/2017 3:58:01 PM
I`m actually glad when I see womens profiles where she states a preference that I do no possess.
It saves me the time and effort for everyone.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 145 (view)
Bait and Switch
Posted: 7/8/2017 3:52:27 PM
You go out, you laugh, have a good time, maybe have some light petting/making out, agree that you MUST see each other again kiss goodnight etc and radio silence or "meh" when you contact her about it.
Very likely due to one of the following-

1. She had a great time but it didnt really linger in her mind the next couple days like it had with the other men she`s been with in her life.
She was interested but just not THAT into you.

2. She has other options and although she had a great time with you, she was was 50/50 about seeing you again and she wants to see if she can have a better time with the next one she`s got lined up.

3. She had a great time but the ex showed up and took her away.

4. She seemed like she was having a great time but she really wasnt having a good time. A good actor.

5. Shes had a great time, and shes an attention/dating addict who loves the thrill of the build up before that first meet, the thrill of the unknown involved with meeting someone new, the ego boost from having it go well when you meet, and then repeating that cycle with someone else new.

6. She had a good time with you, but theres another guy that she also had a great time a week ago. A man whom she wondered if she`d hear from again is now knocking on her door for a second date, and her attention is now focused on him.

Now heres something to think about.
It is likely that you`ve been on the other side of this. If you havent, keep dating and you will-

Go out and have a great time with a girl, but it doesnt really linger in your mind very much over the next couple days so you dont feel very strongly compelled to contact her and ask her out again......etc........etc....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
Need explanation
Posted: 3/18/2017 2:53:24 PM
There are many angles at which people approach things in life such as dating, getting to know someone, etc
There are many variables and possibilities to explain a behavior or act, and one that I`d like to point out is that this guy may have simply needed to connect with someone, just like he did with you, BUT he didnt need it to become permanent or to grow and progress.
It is possible that he just needed to reach out there, see if anyone could "see" him and find out if he could also "see" into her and once he got his fill, he didnt need it anymore.
If this possibility is true, it is very unlikely that he even knew he would get his fill of it and have it end that way.
Some people just need temporary validation that they are alive and someone notices them. Then they go back to their solitary lives in the caves.

v v v v v LOL@ butterchicken!!! v v v v v
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
I thought he was interested, then stopped responding
Posted: 3/18/2017 1:49:09 PM

My feeling is, if I sent the last message and if he didn't respond, I should "get" the message.

Thats my policy too, as long as I`m sure they got my message and havent responded then I move on.
Its no fun when this happens, I certainly dont enjoy it, but such is dating life I suppose.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 524 (view)
Confused about You're too old for me responses from women
Posted: 3/18/2017 1:34:00 PM
I`m confused as to why, when someone has a certain preference ( whether it be age, distance, etc) they cannot be bothered to use their mail settings to weed those out?
I wonder if some people get some perverse satisfaction out of answering messages all day and telling people they are too old, live too far away, etc
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
Is this true?
Posted: 3/17/2017 4:39:21 PM
At this point I would like to see at least a 50% effort from women.
I dont even get that most of the time and its been that way since I were born.

Recent example: a woman I met from here. We start texting and we get together twice.
Everything is going great. Great connection, great conversation, great flirting together, great physical affection, great sex, great communication afterwards.
I really liked this girl and felt that she liked me just as much, I thought I`d caught a FISH.

Then comes the doubt and I mean doubt created by HER (as always with women).
I shoot a text and ask her out to a perch dinner on Saturday, and after a 36 hour wait she says "I dont know, my plans were to spend the weekend with my mom she`s going to Florida next week"

And thats it. She took nearly 2 days to answer me and its a very short answer without any counteroffer ..

No counter offer such as "hey I`m busy with mom this weekend but can we get together another day, I`m available on Tuesday afternoon?" etc

And what also burned my ass was the fact that she didnt make any EFFORT to help spark the conversation she just said she was busy with her mom. Not another word.

So I didnt reply at all and guess what...........I never heard anything from her either.
A few weeks later????? I find out from a friend of a friend that she was HURT and ANGRY because I "ghosted" on her.

So, she wanted the same thing I wanted......for us to be together ........but look at her sorry ass lack of effort when it really counted.
I can see the early signs of relationship problems here, glad I didnt get involved with yet another relationship lazy woman.....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 139 (view)
To paraphrase Madonna, living in a grey area world, b/c i'm a grey area girl
Posted: 2/11/2017 6:29:31 AM
Yup, that smug little attitude of hers would be cut right down to size on day one by the women she'd be trying to date.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 136 (view)
To paraphrase Madonna, living in a grey area world, b/c i'm a grey area girl
Posted: 2/10/2017 6:06:31 PM
It`d be funny if women could spend one month living as a man and trying to get dates with women.
The rules of this game would be that she gets to remember her status and everything about being a woman, but she has to approach and ask women out based on what boys and young men are taught/programmed to believe about what women are (sugar and spice and everything nice, just treat them real good and show respect and women will love you, etc)

Inject testosterone so that all they can think about is getting laid, along with the feeling of acceptance~ which is the number ONE thing men want from women.
Now lets watch the fireworks, because heres my prediction of what would happen if women had to live as men trying to get a date with women~
The suicide rate would go to 99 trillion percent.

Women (now living as men trying to get a date with women ) could not, ever in a billion centuries, handle all the rejection from women that they`d have to take.

Sorry girls.
You would not only fail miserably as a man trying to get a date, you would literally throw yourself off a bridge if you had to try and live as a man trying to get a date with women.

Approach anxiety?
Us guys stand right at the edge of that bridge everytime we approach you, knowing that theres a good chance you`ll push us off it.
So now, just think of all the times you`ve rejected a guy. Thats what he went through.
Now, think about the times you were an azz about it.
Be honest, because you KNOW that there have been times that you were an azz just for your own entertainment and amusement.

Like I said at the start......It`d be funny if women could spend one month living as a man and trying to get dates with women. ........good luck.....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 988 (view)
bald guys
Posted: 2/9/2017 5:08:05 PM
I cannot change that I`m bald, however I do have SAVAGE hair replacement skills.
And every now and then, I purchase and personally modify a Swiss lace hairpiece, I bleach the knots myself so they melt into my scalp, and once I place it on head it cannot be detected by looking nor by touching it.

When I do this, I`ll assume a different identity, spend a weekend in a nearby city, and go out to bars, socialize, meet new people and groups, and I have NEVER been detected as wearing a hairpiece yet.

You can even pull on it, to a degree and it wont come off.
Its been several years since I`ve done this, I think I`ll order one.

Time to transform once again.....
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 818 (view)
Posted: 2/9/2017 4:46:16 PM
I can confirm that squirting is a real thing.
First, when I was in my younger 20`s ~ a personal friend who was much older than myself complained that his new girlfriend would pee all over him during sex.
We concluded that when she orgasmed, she was losing control of her muscles down there and emptying her bladder.

Fast forward some 12yrs, and a girl I was fingering, came very hard on my fingers and it definitely came from her vagina.
She went crazy and told me "omg I`ve never done that before please do it again!"
So I fingered her in the same way and a minute later she did it again.
I was simply trying for the g-spot with her and I hit it just right. I remembered everything I did and 90% of girls I`ve ever been with since get that same treatment and all react the same way, they squirt either a little like gushing on my hand or flat out spray.

I have had little success getting this squirt reaction through intercourse though.
Maybe I`m just not getting the job done there, lol.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 27 (view)
Nipple Orgasm - Does it Exist?
Posted: 2/9/2017 4:34:41 PM

I always get scared of that myself. I was in a similar situation a long time ago. I know that I have two modes (too light, or way too hard) in most situations, so I get really nervous with this type of play.

It did scare/deeply concern me because she was so caught up in the moment every time, her eyes were closed she was breathing heavy and gyrating her pelvis like a horny pornstar and I wondered if she really knew what was going on.
I worried that if I bit even harder she would snap out of it and scream out in pain but she never did, she always loved it.

She was among the most unique sex experiences I`ve ever had.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 52 (view)
Dating guy out of my league and scared (he is 27 I am 41)
Posted: 2/9/2017 4:23:01 PM
There is no such thing as, "out of your league."
There is only, "out of your element."
And that, is temporary.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
The House of Pain
Posted: 2/9/2017 4:19:28 PM
There has been loss in your life.
And now, moment by moment, minute by minute, hour by hour and day by day constant thoughts about this loss now engulf your entire being, and just like the suddenness of a broken shoe lace, your life has changed in an instant.

You are living now, in the House of Pain.

A home where I know these walls~ with no paint nor wallpaper~ just horizontal, uneven, and colorless slats~
the roof~ which is filled with large holes and it leaks raindrops inside all the time~ the staircase leading to the second floor, with its many broken, creaking steps~ the upstairs~ filthy wood slat flooring which is uneven and uncovered~ closets with dirty, torn, unwearable clothing and windows with tattered and torn gray colored drapes.
The upstairs hallway barely lit by only a small broken window on each end of the house.

A door pushed against a wall and hanging by one hinge adorns the entrance to the basement with its cracked, chipped cement stars descending down into a blackness darker than any night, emit a feeling the deep void and hurt, misery, and pain of loss.
It is sheer agony in its most powerful form.

You cannot go anywhere near it. Your body becomes paralyzed and you are gripped with a deep sense of fear when you so much as look at the entrance........... to that basement.
It is as if it is looking back at you, without eyes but it can somehow see you, and wanting to come within you.
It is a terrible thing, whatever it is and you must stay away from it.

Deep down in that black and terrifying abyss is where the source of all the pain and agony are coming from.
Going down there not possible, as you would be suddenly engulfed in all the pain, fear, and agony at once.
It feels as if it would literally kill you.

Outside the sky, cloudy, dark, and bleak~ the yard~full of dead grass and dirt, the neighborhood~filled with leafless tree trunks with damaged, gnarled branches scattered amidst empty homes.

The air~ not a single breeze blowing but cold, stifling, and damp.
Everything gray in color.
And nearly silent but for the faint, distant sound of the highest note on a keyboard being struck lightly every once in a while, like the sound of frozen teardrops hitting a hollow pipe.

Your daily life goes on and somehow you must function. The pain is so strong that it is always there, from the moment you awake in the morning until you go to bed.
It is now the biggest part of your life, front and center, on your mind and your gut at all times, every minute, every hour, every second and every moment.

Sleep is rare and only takes place once you`ve had several days without it, and even then its only for a couple of hours.
You are jolted out of your sleep each time by something unknown, and the misery immediately takes the center of your being once again.
For a brief moment as you`re shocked from your sleep, the flash of a quick vision goes through your mind just before the pain sets in. It is like a picture. A picture of a basement doorway.

The pain is always there, just beneath the surface and constantly trying to break through. When you talk to people at work, it whispers in your ears.
It urges you to steal away moments to yourself at work, school, in the store, in the bathroom, or around a corner.
Just for a minute to let some of it bleed through. You wrap your arms around your lower body to keep your guts from falling out.
After weeks and months you`ve gotten good at hiding it, and you can recover your composure rather quickly if someone walks in on you.

You are numb on most days now. The ability to feel the pain and misery has lessened, although it is still there waiting.
When will this end? When will it get better, just a little bit better?
Will I ever forget? Will I ever heal? When will I ever get a break from this, please just the smallest reprieve!
And this time, in self pity, you cry yourself to sleep.

You approach the basement entrance. You have been so numb for so long now that maybe it`ll be less terrifying to look down there now.
It still paralyzes you but something within you beckons you to proceed.
You go to the doorway and peer down into the blackness. This is as close as you`ve ever been to the doorway, and the first time you`ve ever looked directly into the blackness.

The fear is much more powerful than you could have ever imagined it would be. It has literally taken your breath away, and you notice this only because you have now started choking and gagging involuntarily for air.
Frozen in place, you catch your breath but you cannot move away, as much as you want to, you cannot.

Because as powerful a motivator as is that fear, urging you to run have an even deeper need to know.
You must see, and you must know right now, what lurks down in there.
After a few deep breaths you take that first step down those stairs.
Then another step and another one.
Until finally, you descend all the way and completely into the darkness.....and there, once deep inside, once you reach the bottom of those stairs and step foot onto that cold and black floor, now gripped by a fear and terror so strong that your heart is pounding out of your chest and you are breathing so loudly that its making your ears ring, and with both of your eyes opened so widely it feels as if the very lids are touching your forehead, you see it.........

You are once again startled out of your sleep, but it is by the alarm clock this time.
This is very unusual, since you normally do not sleep through the whole night but instead, you wake several times and feel the misery, which has held its iron grasp on you for so long now.

You get up and start to go through lifes daily motions. Almost like a robot programmed to follow a certain routine, you sit at the table and glance outside as you sip your morning drink.

And it is on this morning, something happens.
As you look outside the window, you notice something. You notice that the leaves on the trees appear to be a deeper shade of green than they normally do.
A short time later, as you walk out to your vehicle, you have another moment of clarity and you notice that there is a lite dusting of morning dew, and it looks like a bit of fog hovering just above the grass.

These seem like the tiniest, most insignificant little things, but you did notice them and you gave them thought......

Later the next day, someone gives you the smallest of grins and in your mind and suddenly you think "I wonder if she just shanked a mother****er" and you laugh to yourself.

These moments, these moments of taking notice of little things continues every other day for the next few weeks.
And after waking once again to the alarm clock instead of that jolting, rude awakening that you usually get, feeling very well slept for the 5th straight night in a row, you realize, that you are on the road to healing.
And as you have your morning drink and look outside, you cry.
You break right down and you cry VERY hard for just a couple minutes, and it feels so good.
Because that was the very last of the pain leaving you all at once.

One day, you share a happy story with a friend, and you smile sincerely as you tell them about it.

Afterwards, you suddenly have a memory of something very recent thrust upon you.
It comes out of nowhere, takes over your mind, and plays itself back over and over.

You suddenly remember your dream of descending into the basement within the House of Pain.

.......when you get to the bottom of those cold, concrete, chipped and jagged steps it is dark, so dark.
You stand still and stare into the darkness that has been staring back at you since you first looked down that terrifying entrance.

You are now frozen with a feeling that you have never experienced before, your heart is literally pounding out of your chest with bone stabbing fear, your breathing deafens your hearing, but a force within you that is just as strong as the terror, compels you to continue.
And so you begin slowly walking within these horrible bowels of darkness, each step loudly broadcasting the crunch of broken glass, concrete, wood chips and other unknown objects on the cold floor.
It is all black all around you, and you cannot see anything. This is no place for even the bravest of the brave to ever consider entering.

You continue by putting one foot in front of the other in this blackness. This is a blackness where you cannot even see the floor itself, and with each carefully placed step you wonder if you could be stepping off an edge leading to a never ending fall into the abyss.
Three to four footsteps take nearly an entire minute.

You begin to hear something, very faint and off to your left.
You cannot make out what the sound is. Not from this distance.
You need to get closer to be certain what it is.

As you follow your ears, your eyes can now make out a faint light ahead, dropping down from the ceiling and onto the floor ahead of you and in that moment, you thank God that there are holes in the floor above allowing at least a little bit of light to guide down here.

As you approach, your eyes are able to make out something.
And you hear it for certain and without a doubt.
There in front of you, on the floor and with the faint light descending down, is a child.

Seated on this cold and miserable floor, in this terrifying place, with their back turned to you, quietly and gently crying with its arms folded across its chest, and slowly rocking forwards and back.
This child is hurting inside, just like you had been doing for months now.

You instinctively run across the darkness and into that tiny bit of faint light, scoop the child off the floor and race back as fast as possible back across the darkness in the direction that you came in.
You can feel the cold hands of the child grip onto you as you try and find your way out.
A new feeling is fighting its way past your terror and fear, fighting very hard to reach to the surface of your heart.
And it is a feeling of protectiveness and determination.
All your fears and terror are set aside for now, all you know and all you feel is that you must get that helpless child out of this horrible and miserable place.
And you will fight any monster, demon, ghosts, or dark things that try and stop you now.

You stumble around in the darkness trying to find the staircase which lead you down there, and you feel the childs grip tighten upon you as you search for the way out.
Finally, your foot catches on a familiar block and as you step upon it and raise your other foot, that foot happily reports that it feels another block underneath it.

You have found the way out!

Your pace quickens as you walk up the stairs, being careful not to stumble.
Your precious cargo tight in your arms, you cannot afford to lose now and tumble back into the dark.

As you emerge into the faint, grey light of the first floor of the House of Pain, you stop for a moment to stroke the forehead of this child and it is is then that you see for the first time, this childs face.

Every cell in your body recognizes this kid, and you can also sense what the child is feeling at the very moment that your eyes meet.

This child is grateful that you had the courage to remove him from that terrible, horrible place, which is unfit for the strongest of men, much less a child.

And your eyes realize, that the child you`ve just rescued from the abyss, has the face you recognize all so well.
The child, is you.

You have lifted yourself out of pain, agony, and misery, out of the House of Pain, out of the darkness, and back into the light, so you can live and be free once again.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 41 (view)
Why did he ghost me? Cowards way out?
Posted: 2/3/2017 3:54:12 PM

I think the most confusing thing for me was that he seemed into me.
Texting all the time,seemed happy around me,holding my hands,seeming interested.

I have had this happen to me before a couple times, and THIS right here is the part that knocks me out.
The 180, going from what seemed and felt like good chemistry and attraction building, attachment beginning, great sex and affection, to ghosting.
Its like a sucker punch in the face.
An explanation of some kind, ANY kind would have made me feel better, I know this because I have had women who had a sudden change of heart and they told me about it, told me what they were feeling and did the best to explain why and I am STILL friends with one of them today after 20 years.
Being left in the dark all of a sudden just plain sucks, it hurts, it can drag you down.
Theres no reason to put someone through that, nobody should have to lose sleep trying to figure why, all of a sudden, someone changed up on you and you suddenly arent good enough anymore.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 25 (view)
Nipple Orgasm - Does it Exist?
Posted: 2/3/2017 3:36:25 PM
I once a girlfriend who did orgasm from breast play.
She wanted them handled roughly and nipples bitten VERY hard. The first time I clamped down with my teeth and pulled back as I kept my teeth closed on it then let it slide/pop out of my teeth she went crazy with delight, said do it again and do it harder.
I bit down and she said harder, I bit harder and she said harder, that was when I got concerned because I felt I was nearly biting it off, and she said no do it so I did and she loved it.
Shrugs, it was so easy to please her this way I miss her :(
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 69 (view)
when you're in love with someone who is not in love with you
Posted: 9/18/2016 1:50:25 PM

When people come here, instead of welcoming them, we slap them on the face and call their post redundant, trolling, overdone and the list goes on.

Yes, and THATS not very nice :(
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
The House of Love
Posted: 8/23/2016 1:59:49 AM
You`re once again walking down the street of life after going through several homes, looking for the perfect one.
Most of the ones you went through seemed great at first, but after some time something happened that made you leave.
Either the home fell in disrepair as they all do and you just didnt want to put the effort into working on it.

Maybe you just didnt feel like it was the right home for some unknown reason, or maybe you felt you were driven out by ghosts and poltergeists.

So you walk on, looking for another one that catches your eye and then as you turn a corner one of them seem to jump out at you.

A house where you are greeted with a bleached white wrap around front porch, front windows clean and beautiful~ they are the eyes of the house, so clean and clear you can see inside the home from the road, and see even more inside as you come closer.
The eyes of this house, never turning away from you and inviting you to see in.

Likewise, you can feel the home looking inside of you too, and somehow this brings a feeling of..... being home.

A solid, stained and polished wooden front door that beckons you, and ONLY YOU to come inside.

You open the door and are intoxicated by a feeling of acceptance and a "belonging" to this house, as if it were built JUST FOR YOU.

As you walk around and take marvel in the house you notice there are a few boot tracks on the perfectly lain marble flooring, indicating that other men have visited here, but apparently didnt see the beauty like you do.
Otherwise, they`d still be in here.

Some of them are now close neighbors, and have gathered back in the street and wonder what you see in it, and as you encourage them to come have a look from your point of view they notice that it does seem more "lit up and alive" with you in it than when they were there.

The walls are colorfully painted and outlined with perfectly stained wood strip and tastefully decorated with paintings, candlesticks, skylights and a grand chandelier hanging from the center.

The spiral staircase leading upstairs flows out at you like beautiful music does as if representing the voice of the house.

Once upstairs you find there are many rooms all of which are inviting and warm inside, with closets full of toys, clothing, and shoes (lots and lots of shoes) all tucked away neatly and in their own place.

The hallway leading down the center of the upstairs is lit very nicely by a window at each end where the sun shines through.
There is a door in the middle of this hall that is locked up tight, and you dont know where the key is. You estimate the size of the room inside to be about that of a large closet.
You have no idea whats inside but it doesnt matter.

As you move on to the basement area, first greeted by a painted white door and a well lit set of steps going down, you find very well maintained utilities "down there" with copper pipes, quiet running water heater, brand new looking washer and dryer, radiant heat (your favorite, forced air sucks!) and a small area behind a hanging blanket that reveals, a small game room complete with a dart board, small pool table and wet bar.

This house is everything you ever could wanted. You feel invited here, at home here, welcomed here and its for you, just you and no one else.
You feel a soft voice work its way into your head, telling you that are welcome here, and free to build a family here, with children here.

You feel tired now and go back upstairs to find a bedroom with a nice large and well made bed to lay down and sleep on. It sets pretty high up, and has nice plump pillows and a very heavy comforter and blankets.

There is a woodstove with a heavy glass door in front. It has gotten cold outside and you feel a chill as you sit on the side of the bed and remove your footwear.

As you lay back on the bed, with all the lights turned out, the fire in the woodstove slowly grows.

Its heat emanating towards your feet and toasting them to the bone as only the heat from a fire can do.

As you feel more relaxed, you pull up the heavy comforter over yourself while hearing an occasional crackling from the woodstove.
A sound that lets you know the fire is slowly growing hotter and ready to protect you from the cold night you feel very warm, if loved by this house ..... the flames perform their a ghostly dance, reflecting their shimmering soft light and shadows on the walls and feel your eyelids getting heavier as you become warmer and warmer.

You tighten your grip on the heavy comforter and turn onto your side.....your mind finally at peace........a warm glowing light and shadow on the wall beckons you as you your eyes close.....your hands slowly open their grip on the heavy comforter....... you feel your body relax, your weight sinks into the bed...... you feel yourself exhale in complete peace..........
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
Excuses, excuses
Posted: 8/10/2016 5:22:00 PM
I sense tons of deception.
Like kids playing games trying to get you, and likely others, riled up just for kicks, knowing that the sexual pics are just enough to string you along and keep the game going.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
Whats with the sudden silence?
Posted: 8/9/2016 1:47:12 AM
She made you wait to raise your attraction level.
Or, she ran out of other options and now you`re it.
Either way when you get together with her this time, dont blow it by staying cool and backed off this time, initate things with her physically.
Dont make her do be the one to do it, you`ll be sorry if you dont escalate.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 76 (view)
Lunch pics?
Posted: 8/6/2016 6:35:59 PM
I have no clue regarding all the dik pics, I really dont. So many women have told me about it, I see posts about this everywheres and I just dont get the joke, the fact, the pun, the reason, the anything it flies right over my head.

I would not ever in my life just randomly send a pic of my Johnson. Not ever.
I have no clue what these men could possibly hope to accomplish by doing this.
At the same time, I am open to learning.
Always, open to learning. There could be a lesson in there that I need to know about..........lets see it (pun unavoidable)
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 34 (view)
We are looking for the same thing
Posted: 8/6/2016 5:55:54 PM
I think this is a good question. Why we dont find each other ~ there are plenty of obstacles.
It is sad that people stay alone for so long, not even knowing that within a 1 mile radius there is another person, who is single, and could be just right for them.
Whats really sad is when 2 people who are meant to be together can be there in front of each other and not even take the steps necessary to get together.
There is a lot of talk about how people are angry, jaded, too picky, guarded, etc
That attitude would seem to point the finger in blame, but looked at from another angle, it can be taken as truth.
For example, once a person has had what they consider love the way they want it, that person wont pursue anything else.
This could cause them to terminate possibilities that could be great for them simple because they didnt feel what they wanted was "there" when in fact, it was there but for some reason it wasnt apparent.
Example~I`ve done this myself. I had a love that was perfect for me once, and now I wont take it any other way. I`ve walked away from women whom I thought "werent it" only to find those qualities in them later on and after it was too late (she was with someone else)
People get so closed minded about things, stop taking risks and exploring.
Another thing that happens is judging, paying too much attention to "intuition" and over thinking.
We judge others so quickly and easily, and we judge situations.
We over think things to the point that we talk ourselves right out of seeing someone again, and this intuition thing is taken WAY too far IMO.
Sometimes your gut will lie to you, but people believe all too fully that your instincts never lie.
They arent always completely accurate. My own guts told me not to pursue things that I wish I would have.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
I think you're alone now
Posted: 8/6/2016 12:59:42 PM
I feel you man. Tasted that drug and gotta have it every time now.
It gets worse. There is another pitfall in this game of love you`ll want to avoid, you can literally have a chance for real love right in the palm of your hands, hesitate, then have it slip right through your fingers never to come back!
So far in my own life I havent experienced anything worse than that, so if this hasnt happened to you yet just be glad.
And dont let it happen, if you ever have a shot TAKE IT.
Dont do like I did recently (I hesitated) and let it slip away.
In my experience its easier to love and lose than it is to let clear shot at it slip away.
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 40 (view)
Where did all my male friends go?
Posted: 8/6/2016 12:51:58 PM
I`ve had very few female friends over the years, and the ones with whom I am friends are more like sisters to me than anything else.
I will admit though, that for the most part if the opportunity were there I would sleep with them. I doubt the women ever felt there were times that they would have slept with me.
I believe that once a woman has made up her mind about whether or not she will have sex with a certain man, she wont change her mind about it under any circumstances and she`ll have no problem keeping up a lifetime platonic friendship with him.
Men, on the other hand, might initially say he wont sleep with a certain woman but there will be times when we will if theres opportunity to.
And it could be this, within our mentalities, which are on such different levels that the men find it difficult to remain just friends.
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