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Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 4 (view)
Posted: 8/19/2016 8:57:12 AM
Fake profiles setup to get people to go to the other sites. Whenever you find one just report it.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
Posted: 8/19/2016 8:55:52 AM
Unfortunately that is not uncommon.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 1 (view)
Fake Profiles
Posted: 8/19/2016 8:54:51 AM
Seems to be a lot of fake profiles getting through lately and POF doesn't seem to be catching them when it is pretty obvious.

For example when I look at newest users atm there is a heap of them all from Bangaroo.
Couple of problems
1. I don't think there is anyone that is a resident of Bangaroo, it is shipping and commercial with redevelopment expected to include apartments to be completed by 2023.
So why Bangaroo? Because it is the heart of Sydney and probably is picked by something programed to pick the center of Sydney.
2. Does anything look suspicious about usernames that start like this
JuliaJulia (yes another one)
NicoleNicole (another one)
MaryMary (yes another...they must have limited names)
JuliaJulia (really...3 of them)
JuliaJulia (ok make that 4, whats the chance of two people naming a profile starting with that one after another in the same city!)

Note, all 14 just happen to be from Bangaroo. That is 14 out of 30 profiles on the New users page that are definitely fakes. Almost half. Unfortunately I have no way to message POF and say, hey you need to fix your fake finders because this is out of control. Yes I could go into each profile and report it but these are so obvious they shouldn't have gotten through in the first place.

The profiles when you go into them look fairly genuine. That is because they have copied real peoples profile main body message. The exception is that every one of them would probably be classed in the top 10% or better on attractiveness scale. That is another indication of a fake. You just have to look at the profiles around the fakes to see how obvious they are.

Be aware of fakes because scamming people is big business and a lot of people do not know how to spot them.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 28 (view)
Would you date you?
Posted: 6/22/2009 11:32:18 PM
Yep, why;
1. I have a good sense of humour
2. I'm affectionate
3. I'm good in bed
4. I'm not a negative person
5. I have no one else to
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 2 (view)
whats wrong with us
Posted: 6/22/2009 9:42:13 PM
Ahh but before you go to far, what about all the young girls that set out to become pregnant so they can score the baby bonus. Others that do it even though they don't want to be with the guy just so they can claim Centerlink and CSA payments. Then there are the older ones that get with a guy just to sponge off them for as much as they can and ditch them when they find someone with more to gain. These days with divorce rates so high young guys would not likely stay with the girl much longer than 5 years anyway.

It is a bad aspect of society and how things are today. Still any woman can find someone online for company at least, it just depends on how serious or how high they set there standards. That is providing they don't live out in the sticks of course. Different story for guys though.

These days it is the guys that get the raw end in relationships. Has been that way for some time now. Do you notice how much attention Domestic violence against women gets. What about domestic violence against men? Have you ever heard anything about that? No ads on tv or in the paper? Would it surprise you to know that just under 1 in 3 cases of domestic violence is the female abusing the male. You wouldn't think so by the attention it gets.

Then we could go into custodial issues, CSA, AVO's etc. Actually I have a good AVO story from a friend of mine. His ex served one on him and when he came around to pick up his daughter for his regular access she had him arrested for breech of it. He spent a couple of nights in jail because getting an AVO you are considered guilty and have to prove innocence which is hard against someone that is lying. Just because she wanted him to suffer.

So don't be so hard on the young guys. Maybe they run because they have seen what has happened to people who haven't.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 18 (view)
How many loves do you get???
Posted: 6/5/2009 10:16:01 PM
I'm still waiting to find one
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 18 (view)
How many people have you shagged... oops, I mean MET in 'real life'?
Posted: 6/5/2009 9:58:25 PM
I must admit I'm a bit dissappointed after reading the replies on here. This is supposed to be a site to meet people and it appears that most on here aren't interested in meeting others. Maybe the site would work better if those that aren't interested in meeting weren't here to begin with. I've met 3 people from the site in the last 4 years or so, wish it was a more but it seems not many people bother to reply to messages. That and I must not have what others want for some reason. Seems women don't want a good looking guy with a good job that doesn't smoke.

Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 23 (view)
Whats the Issue With Men in Australia ..
Posted: 6/5/2009 7:03:04 AM

-I've also begun to think competition with the girls in Australia is hard!!! These women are super models, I'm short and, lets face it, not the skinniest of girls.

I was just inquiring about men in Sydney, who seem to be either gay, already in a relationship or undecided. Maybe its the age...most of these men were in their mid-20's...I'm 22. I guess age may play a HUGE role in all of this.

Maybe there is a lot of generalisations. I find that my age sems to put off a lot of womeon. Well at least thats what I think it is, having kids doesn't help. Just because you are not skinny does not mean you will not find plenty of guys that find you attractive. Online is really a womans game. Men get what they can because the women have all the choice. The Aussie women you mention are not your competition at all becasue you will find that 90% of them can get whoever they want online and will. With the great disparity of guys to women on dating sites, this still leaves 90% of the guys online with nothing.
As for age and maturity/knowing what they want. Ask any woman that has been around guys much and they will tell you that most guys under 30 aren't worth your time. Problem is at your age they are the guys you are targeting. If you want someone decent online you have to up your age preference. Sure some of those will still not be any better but on a percentage basis it improves immeasurably.

Hope this helps.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 80 (view)
How do you really feel about getting old?
Posted: 12/27/2008 8:36:18 PM
The only scary thing about growing old is being alone while doing it. As long as the body is healthy and the mind intact you have nothing to worry about.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 23 (view)
Do you reply to messages if there is no attraction?
Posted: 12/27/2008 8:26:38 PM
Unfortunately I do not get many chances to have to reply. I did have someone sent me a message that I didn't think I would be interested in. She was about 3 hours away and her pic didn't really look that great to me. I didn't reply for over a month but eventually did. Found she was better than her profile and ended up meeting her. I could've ignored it or said no thanks but sat on it awhile instead. It may not have turned into anything serious down the track but was certainly worth meeting her.

I think some profiles can be a little deceiving. Some may make people look better thanthey really are (especially with very old pics) and others don't do the person justice. Sometimes you just have to take a chance and see what they are really like.

I spose I have gotten away from the original question a bit. I would always reply but as mentioned if I am seriously umming and ahhing it may take some time. If there is no doubt that I am interested or not I would reply straight away.

Oh to be someone that has a full inbox.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 7 (view)
New Years resolutions
Posted: 12/27/2008 8:06:42 PM
I'm not one for normally bothering with this but here's what I would like to hapen over the coming year in no particular order

* Keep going with the exercises I have been doing since August
* Buy a house
* Get out and socialise more
* Increase my business
* Get into a LTR

1st 2nd and 3rd ones are probably the easy ones. Last one seems to be the hardest.

Hope everyone has a great New Year
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
Please review
Posted: 9/13/2008 6:15:23 AM
Have taken those comments on board and adjusted slightly for now. Removed the pics mentioned (yes I'm in the military, hence the uniform). Recent instructions dictated I should remove that pic anyway as we are not allowed to have them on sites.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 1 (view)
Please review
Posted: 9/13/2008 5:24:50 AM
Hey I've been around a long time so would like my profile reviewed. Tell me what you think good or bad. How can I improve it? What else should I do? Need to write 200 words but don't know what else to say.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 14 (view)
Sex Drive
Posted: 9/13/2008 4:34:56 AM
Well going on the women I have been with, that is not abnormal but is certainly above average. I have been with some that seem to think once a week is enough. All that was enough for was to end the relationship. So stick with her as she sounds like a good woman to keep hold of.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 19 (view)
what are you ladies looking for??
Posted: 3/31/2007 10:04:59 PM
As connor said the ratio is against you to start with. I have found the same to be true. To make matters worse there are always quite a few women on sites that are not after a man to start with. Given your age there are less to choose from and in some cases those that are there are not after what you will have to offer. So for the few that are left that you may appeal to you have to fight off maybe 100 or more other potential partners. Now if you aren't offering anything different from them you probably wont get anywhere. I'd love to be a woman on these sites because they get to pick and choose who they want, and there is no shortage of guys offering. I have a friend that is well overweight and not particularly attractive yet she gets dozens of messages a week and I have gotten about 4 in probably a year.
So don't be disheartened, if you get a message returned and it isn't just a 'thanks but not interested' which around 10% will bother sending you, you know you have a chance. D0n't expect anything and you won't be dissapointed. It isn't a good thing to live by but on these type of sites it is reality.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 203 (view)
Better SEX: Before or After 30?
Posted: 3/31/2007 9:50:44 PM
Technically and experience wise it will get better provided they have been doing it. Remember there are still some virgins above 30 so it's no different for them. I think it also depends on who you are with. Some people in LTR's it may not be as good if they are bored with each other. Can get to a wham...bam...let's go to sleep now. For others they will try to spice it up and try things they wouldn't have considered doing when they were younger. For singles having it I think it will certainly be better because the experience comes in. Having said that you may have someone that has only had 1 partner and never experienced much and they will not be very good compared to someone that has done more with more partners or even the same one.
So what I am saying is that as a general rule yes, however there are exceptions.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 68 (view)
anyone here prefer dating people in their own age group
Posted: 3/31/2007 9:44:48 PM
I am 35 next month and I haven't found any women around my age in ages. Would prefer someone 25-35 but in the last 5 years the only ones that have been interested have been either younger than 22 or older than 35. Where are the ones the right age?
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 258 (view)
Thirty and not married
Posted: 3/31/2007 9:40:06 PM
I'm 34, never marrie never really close to mariaged, two kids to two mothers. I would get married if I find the right woman but I have never been even close enough to consider it.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 37 (view)
Done before - but it's pretty funny
Posted: 3/31/2007 9:26:08 PM
Always up for a laugh

Dave needs to work one of these into his live appearances (hey maybe I will be seen at a venue near you)
Dave needs a hug. Give Dave some love people. I think he needs it (Sounds good to me)
Dave Needs A Timeout (ummm what did I do)
Dave needs help walking through doors (ok)
Dave needs more volunteers (any takers, need my house cleaned, car washed..mmm what else)
Dave needs to start paying more attention to what Judi does around here (who's Judi)
Dave needs some advice (must be on how to find a good woman)
Dave needs a kidney (that doesn't sound good)
Dave needs Firefox and BugMeNot (got firefox, haven't heard of bugmenot, maybe should look for it since I need it)
DAVE NEEDS OUR PRAYERS (pray I find a woman before I'm 35...hey that's 38 days away
Dave needs help (yep ok)
Dave, needs your help again (gee getting pushy here)
Dave needs a reality check (finding a good woman in 38 days, yeah right)
Dave Needs Filler (no comment)
Dave needs a boyfriend (No thanks a girl would be better)
Dave needs to sign wolf bill (what the hell is that)
Dave needs to share from his own experience (I'm willing for those that want to listen)
dave needs 4 runners (ok)
Dave needs some time off (well I'm on 2 weeks holiday right now)
Dave needs to go ASAP (where?)
Dave Needs Godly Gears (As god is my witness)
Dave needs sun (yeah I need a tan)
Dave needs your help today (Gee someone help me)
Dave needs a little work (someone give me a makeover)
DAVE NEEDS VACATION (that would be nice)
Dave needs his own website (That would be good)
Dave needs to sound-proof next (Not that noisy)
Dave needs a free Mac Mini (wouldn't say no)
Dave needs to come back to Portland (Australia will do me fine)
Dave needs to decide on BestMan (that's getting ahead of myself, need a woman first)
David needs a full time carer (someone to hug and hold...)
Dave needs to join the Mafia! (mmm...well they look after their own dont they)
Dave needs the financial benefits (Show me the money)
Dave needs to coach him (I'm U/8 Soccer coach this year)
Dave needs no introduction. (I'm me, you all should know me )
Dave needs to be a writer (Does poetry and song lyrics count?)
Dave needs to go coach soccer (Hey I already am)
Dave NEEDS to know your politics (Don't want to argue too much)
Dave needs to be a bit more mature (We are all kids at heart)
Dave needs to show up and stage a protest (I protest that there are too many guys vs girls on dating sites, it's not fair)
Dave needs is an intensive training program (train me well)
Dave needs to realize that customers are important and he should know that. (ok you are important to me)
Dave needs. help with the youth groups (The youth is our future)
David needs to be voted off-simple as that (that's a bit harsh)
Dave needs to ensure this is a standard representation of time (how long do you want)
Dave needs wrapping paper (presents yay)
"Everybody needs a Dave. Get yours today!" (hey it's not Dave needs but I like it)
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 4 (view)
What exactly is the diffrence???
Posted: 3/31/2007 8:12:17 PM
So is the father a criminal, drug dealer or what. Must be a pretty bad dude if he is restricted that much
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 87 (view)
Child Support OR Family Support
Posted: 3/30/2007 4:29:13 PM
Yes Mary I realise that, your case of $200 difference per month is only $2400 a year. I'm talking with equal earning, differences of up to $28ooo a year which is significant. Sure that is with 3 kids.
Yes family assistance comes from the government and you get at least some unless your income is over $92000.
The CP is the one that 'claims' the kids. That is how they get FA. There is no other tax benefits, just that FA and CS are tax free. No forms required for that.

I am in both situations, I pay CS for one boy and I also am a CP to another but don't receive any CS. Due to the mother now wanting equal time we have him 7 days about. It used to be 2 days with her and has increased over time. Not that I am happy about that because I am the one losing time with him. She has never really paid CS and has another girl who I looked after for the first 18 months before she moved back with her mother.
I pay around $5500 pa
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 81 (view)
Child Support OR Family Support
Posted: 3/30/2007 8:50:49 AM

Anything above that should be a choice given to the NCP to if he/she would like to spend on their child. And further this amount should never exceed more then 25-30% of the NCP's take home income.
This type of formula would ensure that the NCP always keeps a bare min of 70% of his/her take home pay. And also ensure they are simply not being gouged for things from the CP for things they might want to agree with.

I assume you are talking before tax as is the reality. In Australia if you are paying for 1 child it is 18% and 80% of people are on the 30c/$ tax rate so effectively they take home 52%, with 3 kids it is 37% so they would only take home 33% for every extra dollar earned. There is also an amount that is disregarded from the formula which if the NCP has no other children it is around AU$14600 or so. That is also pre tax though. The CP also receives family assistance.

The CP can earn $43654 before any change is made to what is received. The money received for CS is tax free. So let's say they are on equal incomes, the following would apply
With 1 child under 13
NCP Income = $40000 - CS $4564 - Tax $8008 = Net $27428 (68.5%)
CP Income = $40000 + CS $4564 + FA $4317 - Tax $8008 = Net $40873 (102%)
Diff NCP - CP = $13445

NCP Income = $50000 - CS $6364 - Tax $11128 = Net $32508 (65%)
CP Income = $50000 + CS $6364 + FA $2317 - Tax $11128 = Net $47553 (95%)
Diff NCP - CP = $15045

With 3 kids under 13
NCP Income = $40000 - CS $8113 - Tax $8008 = Net $23879 (60%)
CP Income = $40000 + CS $8113 + FA $12954 - Tax $8008 = Net $53059 (106%)
Diff NCP - CP = $29180

NCP Income = $50000 - CS $10298 - Tax $11128 = Net $28574 (57%)
CP Income = $50000 + CS $10298 + FA $6954 - Tax $11128 = Net $56124 (112%)
Diff NCP - CP = $27550

It's no wonder that NCP's are complaining when if they are earning the same amount of money as the CP they can in some cases only have 1/2 as much money to live on.
CP's on the other hand are complaining they don't get enough yet consider this, if a CP had 3 kids to 3 different partners all on $50000 pa, they would receive $19092 in CS and $12954 in Family Assistance which is all tax free. That's $32046 or the equivalent of a job earning around $43000 pa. On top of that they could be collecting rent assistance, sole parents pension, or living with a partner who also earns $50000 pa.

Sure NCP's have a responsibility to the children, but with male NCP's having the highest suicide rate in Australia who is really winning.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 46 (view)
What do we think of POF compared to other well known Australia sites
Posted: 3/28/2007 4:23:21 AM
I've been on too many Mostly because I have never paid for them so in nearly every case couldn't contact people beyond a 'wink' or 'flirt' or whatever the applicable site had. Some have chatrooms that you can get into, some I have joinedf when they started and had full features to begin with. I have met a few people from sites when I have been able to message people. findsomeone when it was free I think was one of them. Never found the right person though, not even close actually. And being a guy I never had the problem of having too many to choose from like the women have.

Back to topic though POF is good for reasons already posted. I also hate sites that you cannot even look at a profile if you aren't a paid member. That is absurb. Can't think of anything bad about POF and just hope it stays that way. Now I just have to find someone on it
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 14 (view)
What Guys like and dislike in womens profiles
Posted: 3/28/2007 4:02:23 AM
Storms first post isn't far from the truth. Anyway from me what I don't like, profiles with no pic and bugger all info. Why bother at all? Women who do not put their body type and have no pic. Let me give you a hint girls, a guy sees that he expects you are badly overweight and don't want to admit it. Women with that say they are slim to average but look at their pic and, from the film 'The Castle', They are dreaming. Women who smoke, well that's just because I don't, same goes for drugs. Women who restrict their options down to someone that would have to be Mr Universe living in a bubble with a corporate jet who gives all his money to his potential get the point. Women who are after someone just to financially care for them. Women who have "I'm interested in women only'. Although the prospect is interesting it is a pain when on some sites there is more women after another woman then there is after a man. Women who say something like, 'I have very high standards and will only accept you if you have a six-pack abs etc.' If they want that they should go to (no it's not real, or is it I haven't checked) or something. Women who aren't after a relationship of any sort. You know, 'I'm only here checking out who is there but don't want to meet anyone so don't message me'. Well excuse me but don't give them another stat to say we have x number of girls on this site. Maybe it should be x/3 that are actually single and looking.

Maybe I sound cynical but I have seen it plenty and women complain of guys that are rude on sites however they can be just as bad.

Having said that I have met people that I met online and it isn't all bad. Just haven't found any that are right yet.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
what girls like and dislike in mens profiles
Posted: 3/28/2007 3:42:28 AM
Hey I'll volunteer, tell me what you like and dislike about my profile.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 174 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 3/9/2007 9:20:59 PM
Just found this on another site (
regarding greenpower to do with the power stations

Tumut 3 Micro Hydro Generators

^ GreenPower Generator

Cooling Water Micro-hydro Generators installed during 2003-2004 at Snowy Hydro Limited's largest power station, Tumut 3, have gained GreenPower accreditation.

Green Power is a national accreditation program that sets stringent environmental and reporting standards for renewable energy products offered by electricity suppliers to households and businesses across Australia.
^ Tumut 3 Micro-hydro Generator

Tumut 3 Power Station consists of six 250 megawatt (MW) hydro-electric generating units, all capable of either generating electricity or operating in synchronous condenser mode. In addition, three of these generating units have 200 MW underslung pumps used to return water via the pressure pipelines to Talbingo Reservoir.

The Cooling Water Micro-hydro Generators, each with a generating capacity of approximately 120kW each, have been installed to replace pressure-reducing valves on the six generating unit’s cooling systems.

By installing these micro-hydro generators, Snowy Hydro Limited will be saving around 3137 tonnes of carbon dioxide each year that could otherwise be produced by coal burning power stations. In addition, this installation not only captures previous wasted renewable energy, but also will be substantially reducing the noise that was associated with the previous pressure reducing valves.

Jindabyne Dam Mini Hydro Power Station

As part of the project works currently being undertaken at Jindabyne Dam to allow for increased environmental water flows to the Snowy River, Snowy Hydro Limited will be constructing a 1.1 megawatt mini hydro power station.

It is planned that this mini hydro power station will utilise some of the environmental water flows and generate clean, renewable electricity.

The mini hydro power station is GreenPower accredited and will save around 5500 tonnes of carbon dioxide each year that could otherwise be produced by coal burning power stations.

What is GreenPower?

Green Power is a national accreditation program that sets stringent environmental and reporting standards for renewable energy products offered by electricity suppliers to households and businesses across Australia.

The aims of GreenPower are:

* To facilitate the installation of new renewable energy generators across Australia, beyond mandatory renewable requirements, thereby decreasing greenhouse gas emissions.
* To encourage growth in consumer demand for renewable energy.
* To provide consumer choice for, and increase confidence in credible renewable energy products.
* To promote the renewable energy industry through the rigorous accreditation of generators.
* To increase consumer awareness of the benefits of renewable energy.
* To increase the sustainability of Australia’s electricity supply.

For more information on GreenPower you can access their website through
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 173 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 3/9/2007 9:10:32 PM
Ok, this post started small and grew and grew. Anyone interested in what is the largest Hydro-electric scheme in Australia read for some facts on the capacities etc. Fair bit of the info is available on Wikipedia

The Scheme is the largest renewable energy generator in mainland Australia and plays a pivotal role in the operation of the national electricity market, generating approximately 3.5% of the mainland grid's power. The Scheme also has a significant role in providing security of water flows to the Murray-Darling Basin. The Scheme provides approximately 2,100 gigalitres of water a year to the Basin, providing additional water for an irrigated agriculture industry worth about $5 bn per annum, representing more than 40% of the gross value of the nation's agricultural production.

Just thought I would throw this in, from my hometown of Talbingo the hydro-electric power station once the largest in the southern hemisphere. Here is the capacity I just found for it's power generation

Tumut 3 Power Station
The power generated at Tumut 3 serves both New South Wales and Victoria. The power station has an operating capacity of 1 500 000 Kw making it the largest of all the Snowy Mountains power stations.

In the SMA scheme the water storage total was at 17% about 2 months ago. This has meant a lot of the power stations do not have enough water to generate any power.
Just found this reported 2 days ago;

Water levels in the big storages have now fallen to just 12 per cent of capacity, down 5 per cent from this time last month and at their lowest levels on record.

Guthega: the first power station
The Snowy Mountains Scheme, which commenced in 1949, is located
geographically approximately midway between the two major load centres of
Sydney and Melbourne. Both the states of NSW and Victoria were totally
separate entities in terms of electrical power generation. The first Snowy Power
Station (Guthega, 60 Megawatt output) was connected to the NSW power grid
by a 132 kv transmission line in 1955, providing valuable electrical energy at a
time of great post-wartime shortage.

Tumut 1 has four turbines, with a generating capacity of 329.6MW of electricity. The power station was completed in 1959, and has 292.6 metres rated head.

Tumut 2 Power Station
Location Snowy Mountains Scheme, New South Wales
Owner Snowy Hydro Limited
Status Baseload
Fuel Hydroelectric
Turbines 4
Max Capacity 286.4 MW
Commissioned 1962

Tumut 3 Power Station
Location Snowy Mountains Scheme, New South Wales
Owner Snowy Hydro Limited
Fuel Hydroelectric
Technology Turbine
Turbines 6
Max Capacity 1,500 MW
Commissioned 1959
The power station was completed in 1973, and has 150.9 metres rated head. It was the first hydroelectric power station in NSW to employ pumped storage.

Wow the more I look the more I

Murray 1 Power Station
Murray 1 has ten turbo generators, with a generating capacity of 950 MW of electricity.
The power station was completed in 1967, and has 460.2 metres rated head.

Murray 2 Power Station
Murray 2 has four turbo generators, with a generating capacity of 550MW of electricity.
The power station was completed in 1969, and has 264.3 metres rated head.

Blowering Power Station
Blowering has one turbo generator, with a generating capacity of 80 MW of electricity.
The power station was completed in 1969, and has 86.6 metres rated hydraulic head.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 172 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 3/9/2007 8:30:19 PM
I've just read the references and such that were given with the article

must admit it is compelling stuff and certainly would raise doubt in peoples minds. One of the things it states is that it is possible that increase in the suns intensity has resulted in all the increase in temperature that has occurred. Anyone that believes this should be scared out of their minds because if that is the case there would be no way of stopping it. The earth would certainly be on a downward spiral. Another interesting thing that is not mentioned at all is the extinctions and impending extinctions of creatures that have been happenning recently. In fact the only mention I saw of animals is Polar bears which it said are thriving. Well I don't know where that data came from because I have heard a lot to the contrary. In fact I believe it was more recently than this article was published that the US had given climate change as the reason that polar bears are endangered. Maybe the author had some information that the government is unaware of because he seems to think they are doing better with climate change.

The book suggested that individuals may be likely to break apart from reliance on the big companies for energy requirements. Around 10 solar panels is enough for an average house energy needs. Don't know how much that is worth, but it would pay for itself over time. Denmark has a large amount of wind generated power where the towns share the energy.

Even if climate change was not as an immediate issue as it appears, changing over to cleaner energy appears to be a win win for both the planet and consumers alike. The more people that want it the cheaper it will become and technology will improve performance making more people want it. The cycle will continue making it more attractive than other fuels.
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 170 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 3/9/2007 7:38:57 PM
Carena28 if you have seen an inconvenient truth you can add this article to the list of those that create doubt/dismiss climate change. There is a point in the documentary that states (I'm not going to check the exact figures but these are close), of 783 published scientific papers regarding climate change 0% said it wasn't happenning. Of 593 published articles in the media 57% dismissed it or put doubt on the effects of it.
Now my figures aren't exact as I'm going on memory but the facts are that many media published articles on global warming and climate change are distortion of the facts. There are many influential companies that have an interest in global warming not being acted upon. I don't think I need to mention the type of companies I'm referring to.

I have finished the book 'Weather Makers' now. As for the recomendations and possibilities it suggests that no single green energy method will be enough but a combination of different types will be required to meet power needs. Wind and solar are both gaining momentum in certain places and as more people use them it becomes cheaper. Might be worth investing in these areas. One thing that is for certain, if procrastination continues as doubt is perpetuated through mainstream media, the situation will only get worse. As it is most people do not know what to believe mainly because of the media. Propoganda campaigns regarding Global Warming need only create doubt in someones mind to be successful in their intent. In the meantime companies can maximise profits for years to come because no restrictions are placed upon them.

Someone earlier said they were proud of Australia doing as much as it is towards the problem. Unfortunately they also may be unimformed. Australia was given special treatment for Kyoto and still have not signed. The special treatment was well above and beyond anything any other country was granted and was forced upon the summit by Australia. Read the book if you want to know what happenned. Australia and the US are the only developed countries not to sign.

On the good side, Howards decision to make EF light globes mandantory is a start. I think making solar hot water systems should be the next step but because they are much more expensive than lightglobes to change over it would be much harder to do. Maybe giving tax rebates for people that change may be an option.
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Msg: 103 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 3/2/2007 4:42:07 AM
Caves, This rock is supposably the closest of it's type to the surface due to a couple of factors that were explained in the book. Most places in the world the same rock is twice as deep. It also has a structure that suits the technology due to being compressed rock, and sediment or rock above it to trap the heat. I think 4km down is far from playing with the earths core. Quick reference to google confirms this

Depth Layer
Kilometres Miles
0–60 0–37 Lithosphere (locally varies between 5 and 200 km)
0–35 0–22 ... Crust (locally varies between 5 and 70 km)
35–60 22–37 ... Uppermost part of mantle
35–2890 22–1790 Mantle
100–700 62–435 ... Asthenosphere
2890–5100 1790–3160 Outer core
5100–6378 3160–3954 Inner core

Just scratching the surface. Even if you say they are cooling the rock, remember that the rock is probably heated from the other side. Put some water in a saucepan and it will get hot but the stove element wont cool down. I think the same principle applies but I'm no scientist
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Msg: 95 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 2/28/2007 4:49:32 AM
Damn no edit granite is heated to 250 degrees not 25 as stated above. Think you can work out the words that run together.
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Msg: 94 (view)
Global warming - what can we do
Posted: 2/28/2007 4:47:17 AM
I'm currently reading 'The Weather Makers' which was given to me by my father. I am about halfway through but recommend anyone that is interested in the facts regarding climate change and global warming read it. It gives all the scientific info but is written well enough that you don't need to be a scientist to read it. Couple of quick things that relate to this discussion from it

'Aerosols generated by burning coal kill around 60,000 people anually in the US'
Makes Nuclear look better when you realise how many die from coal

' The state of South Australia is home to the worlds largest uranium mine, yet it's largest single point of radiation is not the mine but a coal fired power plant at Whyalla'

'In Australia's Hunter Valley, where coal-fired power generation is concentrated, lung cancer rates are a third higher than in nearby Sydney, despite the polution levels in the metropolis.'

And those 3 quotes are just in one paragraph of the book.

Ok, regarding Nuclear, I haven't read the chapter yet so will peruse it now for some quotes.

'France suppliesnearly 80 % of its power by nuclearsources, Sweedon provides halfand the UK 25%. Nuclear power already provides 18% of the worlds electricity, with no CO2 emmissions. It's proponents argue it could supply far more, but...forcasters believe its share will fall to just 10% within the next decade'

'China will commission two nuclear power stations per year for the next 20 years,...,for 80% of China's power now comes from coal'

Here's another, Geothermal energy

'Geothermal technologies provide a mere 10,000 megawatts of power worldwide'

Then goes on to talk of the reason and problems with geothermal. Then mentions a discovery in South Australia of granite 4km below the surface heated to 25 degrees and withot some of the other problems.

'This one rock in SA is estimated to contain enough heat to supply all of Australias power needs for 75 years, at a cost equivalent to brown coal, without the CO2 emmissions'

'With trial power plants scheduled for construction in 2005, the enormous potential of geothermal power is about to be tested'

It's late so I wont go into any more but once again, anyone with interest in the topic would benefit from reading the book.
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Msg: 18 (view)
How often do they call or see the kids?
Posted: 3/3/2006 8:01:44 PM
I have my 6 yo son 4 nights a week. His mother has gradually increased the time she had with him from nothing to 1 then 2 and currently 3 nights a week. I would prefer to take it back to her having him 2 nights a week so I can make sure he actually does his schoolwork which he doesnt seem to when he is there. I get no child support despite her earning as much as me and having a 2nd income in her household from the guy she has been with the last 3-4 years.
My other son nearly 3 stays with me on alternate weekends. His mum gets child support from me and she fusses over everything. I think she still doesn't really want to be a mother but will not let me have custody because she will lose all the money she gets.
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Msg: 76 (view)
Posted: 3/3/2006 7:49:42 PM
It is true that most women will steer well clear of a guy with kids, regardless of whether he looks after them or even ones that have some that live with their mother. The same is not true the other way around fortunately for the women. I have been a single father for the last 5 years and maybe I'm too picky or just dont want a repeat of the past but in that time I have not had anyone I would call a girlfriend, let alone a serious relationship. There has been several women that have wanted to have a serious relationship with me but unfortunately they have all been ones I did not want one with. Seems to be the case these days, the only ones that do want it are ones that are not the type I want in the first place. Can only hope and keep looking
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Msg: 1868 (view)
Let ME analyze your profile for you
Posted: 10/14/2005 1:12:36 AM
Hey Spiderwoman,
I'm up for a critique
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Msg: 11 (view)
How many single dads actually take care of there kids..
Posted: 10/14/2005 12:58:22 AM
I've had my son since he was 18 months old. At first I also had my ex partners daughter who was 6 at the time for tthe next 13 months. After that she wanted to go live with mum and mum was in a better living arrangement at that stage so she did. Before that it was only occasional weekends that she would have the two of them. These days my boy is 6 and he has 3 nights a week at his mums place which is more than I like cause I miss him, but it works alright. I have another son to another woman who these days lets me have him on alternate weekends. It wasn't a planned birth and we were never truely a couple so she pretty much makes the rules as she sees fit. He is a great 2 yo boy who loves his brother more than anyone else and loves being at my place. His mother has her parents look after him more than she does while she goes out, and it is testing her parents patience. I'd like to have him more but it is hard with work commitments.
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